Duke Postgame

[bballbeadle]

OMG, this is so sad and awful. I just read the last page of the thread and only came on to say that I have 6 Duke friends, and 4 of them said, after commiserating with our loss, that we have good players but need a new coach. They all want to see us succeed and be a worthy rival again. But that is only because they know me. I must agree with the poster who said most Duke fans don’t think about us for more than 2 seconds.

 

[Nicknack]

The effort and intensity Scheyer gets out of a bunch of 5-star recruits annually is really impressive.

Hell of a coach and Duke falls into another generational talent on the sideline.

Is this in sarcasm font? If not, oh my. Even Red could get Duke's current team into the ncaa tourney with those guys, I mean come on. I'm not saying Scheyer isn't a good coach but Duke has whatever players they want. They have an unlimited bank account to spend, truly.

 

[Blanko97]

Well it bothered me as a small part worried Kiyan could end up in a Duke uniform with Melo in Cameron many nights….

Kiyan would never see the floor at duke

 

[Blanko97]

Is this in sarcasm font? If not, oh my. Even Red could get Duke's current team into the ncaa tourney with those guys, I mean come on. I'm not saying Scheyer isn't a good coach but Duke has whatever players they want. They have an unlimited bank account to spend, truly.

Theres a lot of teams with a lot of money, Scheyer gets the best of the best. Thats not by accident. If he wasnt a good coach top players wouldnt go play under him. I know we like to diminish what other programs do to make us feel better but pretending like Scheyer isnt a good coach is insane.

 

[kcsu]

Red Rum

 

[dj8931]

Is this in sarcasm font? If not, oh my. Even Red could get Duke's current team into the ncaa tourney with those guys, I mean come on. I'm not saying Scheyer isn't a good coach but Duke has whatever players they want. They have an unlimited bank account to spend, truly.

and yet, red couldn't get this team on the bubble of the ncaa tourney. in fact, he had them out of it by mid feb.

 

[phsyra]

I’m loathe to put everything on JJ’s shoulders. No, he’s not an efficient producer. But he takes so many shots because he is the only player quick enough and versatile enough to get/create shots. We’d all like Kingz’ percentage, but Kingz doesn’t do enough to get more shot opportunities. I don’t think JJ is a chucker. He doesn’t take a lot of bad shots. He might miss them badly, but he works for those opportunities and takes open threes.

His inefficiency is a fault of the (lack of an) offensive scheme and a lack of foresight, insight, and execution. That’s on the staff.

some of this is true, but JJ has been on campus for years and cant make a layup with his left hand. His lack of left hand costs us 4 points per game.

 

[orangepassion]

The firing of the K State coach was for more than a poor record but rather for publicly criticizing his players.

Somewhere Tyler Roberson is either laughing or crying

 

[IthacaMatt]

some of this is true, but JJ has been on campus for years and cant make a layup with his left hand. His lack of left hand costs us 4 points per game.

Let me just point out that Eric Devendorf used to drive to the left and use his right hand to finish, too.

JJ is not an all-time great SU player, but who is playing well enough to take his minutes?
I'll wait.

 

[IthacaMatt]

It’s on Red. He’s featured him in the offense every year. We could have moved on. We didn’t. Not shocked it turned out this way. It was a concern at the end of last season.

I'm sorry, but Judah was the featured player JJ's first year here.
Donnie was supposed to be the featured player last year.

And they supposedly filled out the roster with a great PG, a great 3 pt shooter, and front court depth, so JJ could play a more supporting role.

To me, he has never been the focus of the offense.

It's just that the other guys can't get shots on their own, and Red doesn't get them to run plays for more than 5 or 10 minutes a game, if he's lucky.

 

[Cusefan0307]

I'm sorry, but Judah was the featured player JJ's first year here.
Donnie was supposed to be the featured player last year.

And they supposedly filled out the roster with a great PG, a great 3 pt shooter, and front court depth, so JJ could play a more supporting role.

To me, he has never been the focus of the offense.

It's just that the other guys can't get shots on their own, and Red doesn't get them to run plays for more than 5 or 10 minutes a game, if he's lucky.

This just isn’t true. He touches the ball before others can get involved. It happened multiple times the other night. He fired up 3’s when Kingz was open. I specifically remember calling it out in the game thread. He also came out at the start of the game firing early in the shot clock. Again, I blame Red. He’s been blinded by this the entire time he’s been here.

 

[Ghost]

This may been posted, but we got a big shout out on PTI! We getting our groove back - we're back in the national discussion!

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Let me just point out that Eric Devendorf used to drive to the left and use his right hand to finish, too.

JJ is not an all-time great SU player, but who is playing well enough to take his minutes?
I'll wait.

You’re insane. Devo used both hands equally. Heck, seems like he finished with the left hand more often just to show off!

 

[Blanko97]

Let me just point out that Eric Devendorf used to drive to the left and use his right hand to finish, too.

JJ is not an all-time great SU player, but who is playing well enough to take his minutes?
I'll wait.

If he wasnt here we could’ve gotten someone better with his funds. We’re paying him like a starter when he’s a bench player.

 

[dollarbill44]

With our assistants in charge we might have lost by 45, what an embarrassment that would have been

Probably wouldn't have made any difference in the final score.

 

[RedtheGOB]

Kiyan would never see the floor at duke

Inaccurate. He would've been taking shots from the logo up 40 on us with 2 mins left and Scheyer would've benched him. Yea he would've been a nobody on their team though.

 

[Scott11]

Let me just point out that Eric Devendorf used to drive to the left and use his right hand to finish, too.

JJ is not an all-time great SU player, but who is playing well enough to take his minutes?
I'll wait.

Are you kidding? Devo had a good left hand

 

[Cusefan95]

This may been posted, but we got a big shout out on PTI! We getting our groove back - we're back in the national discussion!

I think this helps make my case - if Red was already gone and we had an interim coach, this doesn't make PTI. No chance.

But apparently its more embarrassing to be fired midseason than to be called out as incompetent in the national media. I'm entirely unclear as to why, but have been reliably informed that its true.