Lesters' Offense Hybrids

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[AAM62]

really hoping erv goes off in this role.

 

[RMH44]

really hoping erv goes off in this role.

Agreed and i think Lewis is going to surprise a lot of his critics.

 

[jgeorge322]

ive been really busy lately and havent been able to watch many of the videos. ive caught an article here or there. but this has me excited. im ready for the season to start now.

 

[Chip]

Agreed and i think Lewis is going to surprise a lot of his critics.

Lewis is the forgotten player. With Broyld gone, he'll get plenty of time.

It's a little strange to me that they play the same spot because I view Erv and Lewis as completely different types of players (mainly size and speed), but I like Lewis as a receiver. I think he'll be a productive piece this season.

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

Lewis is the forgotten player. With Broyld gone, he'll get plenty of time.

It's a little strange to me that they play the same spot because I view Erv and Lewis as completely different types of players (mainly size and speed), but I like Lewis as a receiver. I think he'll be a productive piece this season.

I'm curious to know how Lewis is going to get around the corner on those sweeps. But he may be a big asset as a receiver/blocker. I'll be curious to see how this position shakes out.

 

[Chip]

I'm curious to know how Lewis is going to get around the corner on those sweeps. But he may be a big asset as a receiver/blocker. I'll be curious to see how this position shakes out.

Yeah, if you're just looking at the type of player, you'd assume Lewis at wideout, and Estime at hybrid. But what do I know, I still don't really know what they're going to do. Just hoping (like everyone else) that it's all for the greater good. Because we need Lester to be really good.

 

[RF2044]

Wasn't Erv borderline academically / a high risk for non-qualifying coming out of high school? He's a really well spoken kid for that being the case.

 

[RMH44]

Lewis is the forgotten player. With Broyld gone, he'll get plenty of time.

It's a little strange to me that they play the same spot because I view Erv and Lewis as completely different types of players (mainly size and speed), but I like Lewis as a receiver. I think he'll be a productive piece this season.

Reminds me a little of the Jim Kiick/Mercury Morris change of pace.

Re: Broyld
After hearing Lester describe how much mental discipline is involved learning the hybrid positions, it makes me wonder if AB simply didn't want to put in the time necessary to be competitive.

 

[RF2044]

Yeah, if you're just looking at the type of player, you'd assume Lewis at wideout, and Estime at hybrid. But what do I know, I still don't really know what they're going to do. Just hoping (like everyone else) that it's all for the greater good. Because we need Lester to be really good.

I have to confess, I'm starting to get more confident about Lester and his system. Looking forward to seeing what they'll be able to do in a couple of weeks.

You nailed it 100% -- we need Lester to be really good. I'm gaining confidence that he actually will be.

 

[Rocco]

With the staff being able to move Erv all over the field, it is promising as hell. We all saw how smooth and quick he was last year, but now he has some confidence and is playing with the 1's. He will be a huge piece this year.

As for Lewis, I really like him out of the slot and out wide. Him running jet sweeps will indeed be interesting, so I can't imagine we will see too much of that unless Hunt and the coordinators see a favorable setup.

Having Ish, Erv, Bris/AC, Lewis and MacFarlane makes for a potent offensive set. I can't friggin wait to watch this team. Ahhhhhhhh!

 

[rrlbees]

Reminds me a little of the Jim Kiick/Mercury Morris change of pace. Re: Broyld After hearing Lester describe how much mental discipline is involved learning the hybrid positions, it makes me wonder if AB simply didn't want to put in the time necessary to be competitive.

That wouldn't really be violating team rules.

 

[Chip]

I have to confess, I'm starting to get more confident about Lester and his system. Looking forward to seeing what they'll be able to do in a couple of weeks.

You nailed it 100% -- we need Lester to be really good. I'm gaining confidence that he actually will be.

The hard part is that it will probably require some patience. Even simplified offenses take time to get up and running properly. Shafer may have that time, or he may not (the AD wild card). It's safe to say that our offense is going to look a lot better than the one that ended last season (under 200 yards, one good drive per game).

I just have no idea how the AD would measure progress. But he seems like the kind of guy that has a pretty good idea of how he'll do it. The grown ups are running the administration now.

 

[TheCusian]

The hard part is that it will probably require some patience. Even simplified offenses take time to get up and running properly. Shafer may have that time, or he may not (the AD wild card). It's safe to say that our offense is going to look a lot better than the one that ended last season (under 200 yards, one good drive per game). I just have no idea how the AD would measure progress. But he seems like the kind of guy that has a pretty good idea of how he'll do it. The grown ups are running the administration now.

Yep. That's it to me in a nutshell. I hope and believe in Lester/Shafer. But if he gets a great shot to get it right and fails - I'm glad we have solid leadership at AD and Chancellor.

 

[Millhouse]

The hard part is that it will probably require some patience. Even simplified offenses take time to get up and running properly. Shafer may have that time, or he may not (the AD wild card). It's safe to say that our offense is going to look a lot better than the one that ended last season (under 200 yards, one good drive per game).

I just have no idea how the AD would measure progress. But he seems like the kind of guy that has a pretty good idea of how he'll do it. The grown ups are running the administration now.

we end up with too many offensive coordinators going for personal moon shots. spence goes all in on bubble screens, chris white went all on in hopscotch. browning went all in on never completing passes. lester is going all in on hybrid. mcdonald just thought pace would do it.

maybe they're trying to be the north east hybrid school for recruiting. it just seems like a gamble

one reason i want an offensive coach is they're more likely to just run an offense that works.

lewis and philips are fine but i prefer specialization. you have 85 guys and limited practice time. give each guy a defined role and let them master it

 

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[LeMoyneCuse]

we end up with too many offensive coordinators going for personal moon shots. spence goes all in on bubble screens, chris white went all on in hopscotch. browning went all in on never completing passes. lester is going all in on hybrid. mcdonald just thought pace would do it.

I don't understand. If we bring in someone who buys in to the Art Broyles system, for example, isn't that someone going for the moon? It's not like we can afford to bring in an established guy.

 

[Millhouse]

I don't understand. If we bring in someone who buys in to the Art Broyles system, for example, isn't that someone going for the moon? It's not like we can afford to bring in an established guy.

no because that offense has been proven to work.

it's not a moonshot to copy the best offense. it is a moonshot to run mid aughts elmhurst offense

coordinators want to be different - they want to stand out from the crowd

it's too bad that mcdonald was so incompetent. he was forced to copy because he knew nothing. i want someone competent to copy something that works

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

no because that offense has been proven to work.

it's not a moonshot to copy the best offense. it is a moonshot to run mid aughts elmhurst offense

coordinators want to be different - they want to stand out from the crowd

it's too bad that mcdonald was so incompetent. he was forced to copy because he knew nothing. i want someone competent to copy something that works

So you want someone to run a carbon copy of another system?

 

[Millhouse]

So you want someone to run a carbon copy of another system?

YES

we're been originally sucky for too long

andrew robinson doing double dutch before throwing end over end to a nose tackle

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

YES

we're been originally sucky for too long

andrew robinson doing double dutch before throwing end over end to a nose tackle

But we did that and failed with McF***it. And who was OC in 05 when the pure West Coast scheme failed miserably?

 

[GoSU96]

I don't understand. If we bring in someone who buys in to the Art Broyles system, for example, isn't that someone going for the moon? It's not like we can afford to bring in an established guy.

Could have hired Phil Montgomery and afforded him in 2013. Could have done it after last year.

 

[Millhouse]

But we did that and failed with McF***it. And who was OC in 05 when the pure West Coast scheme failed miserably?

05 was such a perfect storm of horrible qbs, horrible WR, horrible coaches that who knows what they hell they were trying to run

 

[Orangello]

But we did that and failed with McF***it. And who was OC in 05 when the pure West Coast scheme failed miserably?

If McFlockit actually copied an offense it could have only been the 2006 Oakland Raiders with Aaron Rogers at QB. There's nothing else that would explain the craptasticness of his offense.

 

[RoatanCuse]

As to the point made about different skill sets between Lewis and Phillips, I agree. Bet Lester is well aware of this and will use their abilities as they fit the offensive scheme. Maybe half a dozen assignments for Lewis vs. ten different plays for Phillips.