Lydon to hire agent and enter NBA draft

[Briancuse]

If John Wallace played in this era he would have left after his freshman or sophomore year too.

Completely different world, Shaq stayed 3 years, he could have been a top 5 pick after his first two years. Now guys leave who are 2nd round picks, times have changed, and not for the better, for the much worse.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Completely different world, Shaq stayed 3 years, he could have been a top 5 pick after his first two years. Now guys leave who are 2nd round picks, times have changed, and not for the better, for the much worse.

And the guys in this draft this year would have stayed 3 or 4 years back in 1993 so the draft would have been the same.

 

[HOFCeluck]

Completely different world, Shaq stayed 3 years, he could have been a top 5 pick after his first two years. Now guys leave who are 2nd round picks, times have changed, and not for the better, for the much worse.

I mean, for you.

 

[Briancuse]

I mean, for you.

No for college bball and for the nba.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

No for college bball and for the nba.

I think it's been great for the NBA.

 

[HOFCeluck]

People keep saying the NBA is suffering, but the contract and attendance figures day otherwise.

 

[Louie and Bouie]

i know preseason a lot of people here expected tyler lydon to be a wooden award finalist this year. ok that didn't happen no big deal. that's the top 15 players in the ncaa. (i'm not sure carmelo was on the list ).
but if as a sophmore you can't make at least 3rd team all conference you are not an elite talent imo.
why he didn't test the draft first yada yada $$$$$$ yada yada is open to debate. but i think we already know how this saga ends. good luck tyler whatever and wherever this decision lands you. (not the nba)

What does the not the nba part mean? Are you pushing all of your chips in the middle on this one and saying he won't sign a guaranteed NBA contract?

Bold statement. Wrong but bold.

 

[tbonezone]

if consider the maine lobster bibs the " NBA" then yes he might be in the league.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Hard to blame anyone for leaving college with the new scale of NBA contracts. If Lydon gets a second deal even as a bench warmer he gonna get paid!

 

[HOFCeluck]

if consider the maine lobster bibs the " NBA" then yes he might be in the league.

Hardly a disaster to go to the D league with a guaranteed NBA contract.

 

[tbonezone]

by no means a disaster. but by no means a dream either.

 

[br801]

if consider the maine lobster bibs the " NBA" then yes he might be in the league.

You're certainly not alone, but it seems like quite a few posters here actively root against NBA success for our players and go out of their way to diminish their professional achievements.

I speculated in an earlier post that all major college basketball fan bases are essentially alike in their behavior; I may be wrong about that, however, because others generally take pride in the accomplishments of former players and root for their success.

 

[Louie and Bouie]

I'm glad that DC said what he did. This program needs more of that. Besides Waiters, who left recently that you can look at and say "he's a pro"? Carter-Williams' stock rose due to the strong end of the year he had. Ennis' stock was propelled by the 25-0 start. Malachi had a nice run in the tournament which pushed him into the first round. Donte Greene didn't have any of the three which were previously mentioned, but left. Chris McCullough didn't play exceptionally well before he got hurt, but left anyway. Of the five mentioned, Carter-Williams has carved out a decent career for himself so far averaging 13, 5 and 5. The verdict is still out on Malachi. Ennis is positioned to join Greene at the end of the season.

What's the point of saying Syracuse has X 1st round picks, when these guys can't stick? It doesn't look good for the program overall because the opinion is that SU and Boeheim don't produce good pros. I'm going to take Coleman's word every day of the week as he not only played pro ball, but could have gone anywhere in the country and produced in the same manner he did at Cuse.

That's ridiculous imo. How does Syracuse have anything to do with how these guys play out in the NBA? Syracuse gets them into the 1st round what they do once they get there is on them not Syracuse. That they played one or two seasons at Syracuse has an impact on where they are 5 years from now? None of that makes sense.

Btw, all the guys you mentioned above (interestingly you left out Grant for some reason) that qualified for a contract after their rookie deal signed one (Ennis will probably be the lone outlier).

Waiters (already made about $20 million) is about to become mega-rich.

MCW (already made about $10 million) should be in the league for awhile and continue to earn if he can stay healthy.

Ennis (already made about $5 million) made lottery money without much NBA talent.

Grant (already made $3 million) should be in the league for awhile and will get paid on a second contract.

Greene (made over $5 million) in the NBA before he went overseas.

McCullough (signed a 3-year $3.5 million deal) is to early to tell what will happen.

Richardson (2-year $3.0 million deal) is to early to tell what will happen.

Not sure any of the players above would have any complaints about Syracuse University and what it did for their careers.

 

[tbonezone]

i am not rooting against him. i pointed out above that he was not an elite talent not only of the wooden quality sense but in his own conference play. that leads me to think he'll struggle to make the league.
i'm trying to be realistic about his chances of landing a roster spot on an NBA team next year. don't see it.

 

[Louie and Bouie]

if consider the maine lobster bibs the " NBA" then yes he might be in the league.

I tend to consider an NBA contract with monies being paid by an NBA team making it in the NBA but I guess I'm simple like that.

 

[tbonezone]

i also totally get the argument about coming back and not upgrading your draft status. if you don't think you can play yourself into the lottery next year from a late 1st/early 2nd rounder then leap and hope.

 

[samspann1]

You mean the number one pick who eventually filed for bankrupcy and has been known for speaking whatever is on his mind, regardless how "questionable", who played 25+ years ago when times were much different? Yeah, I do.

You can try to discredit DC as much you want, but the dude bleeds orange.

For that alone, he's good in my book.

 

[br801]

i am not rooting against him. i pointed out above that he was not an elite talent not only of the wooden quality sense but in his own conference play. that leads me to think he'll struggle to make the league.
i'm trying to be realistic about his chances of landing a roster spot on an NBA team next year. don't see it.

Call me crazy, but when I see you and others who probably don't watch a lot of NBA games make definitive ominous statements about a player's professional prospects, it doesn't seem like you're rooting for them to succeed.

 

[Briancuse]

You're certainly not alone, but it seems like quite a few posters here actively root against NBA success for our players and go out of their way to diminish their professional achievements.

I speculated in an earlier post that all major college basketball fan bases are essentially alike in their behavior; I may be wrong about that, however, because others generally take pride in the accomplishments of former players and root for their success.

I don't think that could be farther from the truth, I hope all of our players become all stars, regardless of whether I agreed with their decision or not.

 

[br801]

I don't think that could be farther from the truth, I hope all of our players become all stars, regardless of whether I agreed with their decision or not.

I really didn't have you in mind.

 

[rrlbees]

Yup but I don't believe the scores came back yet

if he took the January SAT, he got them back February 23rd. If he took the February ACT, he may not have gotten the score back yet.

 

[Tony DeFranco]

he's no lock to have a long term NBA career - he's clearly going to get a chance - but if this draft truly is a strong draft he should wait to work outs to see where he is going to fall - if he doesn't go in the first round I would imagine he never plays in an NBA game - but at the same time he is not going to get any faster or learn to dribble/drive in the next year - and if he is gonna have a real NBA career that's just another year that he didn't make any money - personally, if you have a real shot you have to leave - the money these guys make now is ludicrous

 

[OrangeDW]

My armchair scout opinion...I think he could do well if he ends up on a team that likes to spread it out and fire. Team that will Pick and pop with him, and wants him to catch and shoot. And also a team that will be patient with him defensively. I don't know that he's big enough to play center and I don't know that he can guard a lot of 4s right now. But he's a decent athlete and he's smart. I'm sure he knows how to fill a role. On the right team he could do well.

I think his lack of ability to create off the dribble limits the upside and the lack of strength and just so so quickness makes him a question mark defensively at least for now. Like basically everyone picked in the 20s, he could have a nice career or he could do little and be out of the league in a few years, and often there's not a huge difference between the guys who go those different routes. Need the right team, the right organization, sometimes some luck, the right opportunity at the right time, and development.

 

[anomander]

Obviously this was a dagger.

I will say...99% of the time I understand the move and for the most part think it's the best decision for the kid. This one though I just don't see how it works out? I know he is projected to go in the 1st rd. in most mocks, but I think when it's time to draft he will go in the 2nd round. This is probably the firs time I have ever said this about a player (Mali, Ennis, etc.) returning, but I think he should have returned (not that Tyler cares what I think). I do think Hopkins leaving solidified this decision. If Hop stays I think Lydon stays.

 

[SUMBA]

I don't think that could be farther from the truth, I hope all of our players become all stars, regardless of whether I agreed with their decision or not.

I just wish that our first round draft choices would play like stars when they wear Orange. I am really tired of our underclassmen having above average seasons and then declaring for the draft. Why can't they play like first rounders when they are in the Dome?

Thanks for allowing me to vent.