Marrone

[TheCusian]

The unnamed guy was right. Syracuse is a lousy job

Biggest pile of BS in that whole quote. It's not a top job, obviously. And it might have been a lousy job when Doug took over, but unless you're talking about the weather - Syracuse is a P5 job at a very good university.

 

[CIL]

First of all, Doug Marrone is a very, very good football coach. Those denying it in this thread are most likely die hard Bills fans deflecting some of their displeasure with the way he left. Doug Marrone is also a bit of a dikhead who isn't easy to like. That probably also contributes to some of the disconnect between his coaching ability and certain posters perception of his coaching ability.

First of all, a sample size of 2 years in the NFL is pretty darn insignificant. To the poster who claimed he wasn't as good as Bilichick so therefore he stinks. Bilichick went 6-10, 7-9, 7-9, 11-5, and 5-11 his years in Cleveland. He went 5-11 his first year in New England. Suddenly Tom Brady shows us and he's a genius.

Bill Walsh was 2-14 and 6-10 his first 2 years at San Fran. Joe Montanta became Joe Montana and that was it.

Bill Parcells was 3-8 in his only year coaching collegiate football. He took over a Giants team that was 9-7 and 4-5 (strike) the year before he got there. You know what his record was in year 1? He won 3 freaking games.

Now, is Doug going to be a Parcells or Bilichik, etc? I have no idea, nor am I insinuating that. I am intrigued to see what he can do with competent quarterback play.

 

[xc84]

It's not hard to find people that liked a coach. The bigger question is why so many in buffalo and Syracuse don't like him or have little respect for him? Why is he such a lightening rod for this stuff?

Because he jilted 2 teams in those cities. What's so hard to understand about that?

 

[CousCuse]

Lupica: Rich Kotite comes to mind when thinking oone

Lupica: Rich Kotite comes to mind when thinking of Marrone

Kotite took over Buddy Ryan's championship level Eagles team and destroyed it before the Jets debacle. He didn't build up anything. Lupica is just a paid for hit man.

 

[Millhouse]

First of all, Doug Marrone is a very, very good football coach. Those denying it in this thread are most likely die hard Bills fans deflecting some of their displeasure with the way he left. Doug Marrone is also a bit of a dikhead who isn't easy to like. That probably also contributes to some of the disconnect between his coaching ability and certain posters perception of his coaching ability. First of all, a sample size of 2 years in the NFL is pretty darn insignificant. To the poster who claimed he wasn't as good as Bilichick so therefore he stinks. Bilichick went 6-10, 7-9, 7-9, 11-5, and 5-11 his years in Cleveland. He went 5-11 his first year in New England. Suddenly Tom Brady shows us and he's a genius. Bill Walsh was 2-14 and 6-10 his first 2 years at San Fran. Joe Montanta became Joe Montana and that was it. Bill Parcells was 3-8 in his only year coaching collegiate football. He took over a Giants team that was 9-7 and 4-5 (strike) the year before he got there. You know what his record was in year 1? He won 3 freaking games. Now, is Doug going to be a Parcells or Bilichik, etc? I have no idea, nor am I insinuating that. I am intrigued to see what he can do with competent quarterback play.

Qb play was competent. Run blocking was abysmal

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Kotite took over Buddy Ryan's championship level Eagles team and destroyed it before the Jets debacle. He didn't build up anything. Lupica is just a paid for hit man.

Well, now we know Marrone will succeed, because we know Lupica is an idiot.

 

[CousCuse]

Lupica: Rich Kotite comes to mind when thinking of Marrone

Well, now we know Marrone will succeed, because we know Lupica is an idiot.

Marrone is like a young Buddy Ryan. Lupica compared him to Kotite because they bear a likeness, which is like bigotry or racism.

 

[rrlbees]

Because he jilted 2 teams in those cities. What's so hard to understand about that?

I'm not talking about when he left anyplace or fans. While he was there.

 

[rrlbees]

Marrone is like a young Buddy Ryan. Lupica compared him to Kotite because they bear a likeness, which is like bigotry or racism.

Huh?

 

[Crusty]

Marrone is like a young Buddy Ryan. Lupica compared him to Kotite because they bear a likeness, which is like bigotry or racism.

I don't understand that comment at all.

 

[Statesman1]

I couldn't care less if Marrone is a jerk. In fact, it was one of the things I liked about him. It was kind of refreshing after nice guys like Jauron and Gailey.

My problem with him was his offense sucked.

And that's the issue. Belichick can be a and his fans will still love him. But when you're a to people and you aren't better than average, then you're just a .

When you change corporate culture (or attempt to), year one is rarely a rocket up results wise. It's foundation changing. Strong success happens more often in college (see Florida post Zook) than in the bigs (Harbaugh is a rarity).

I laugh at Buffalo fans as if they think they have access to great coaches. Levy was the Boeheim of the franchise. That's long over and Marrone was likely the best coach since. He did opt out in his own arrogant way, but seems like most Jills fans are happy about that. Point to stupid statistics galore, but it just seems funny.

Getting a great coach will be even tougher with no qb, no 1st rounder, and current assistants under contract. Oh and if the current regime still wants control over personnel that will not be a help either. Like it or not, Buffalo is not a glamour franchise or city either and unless you're born there the perception is what it is. Right now this is not an attractive job.

 

[xc84]

Kotite took over Buddy Ryan's championship level Eagles team and destroyed it before the Jets debacle. He didn't build up anything. Lupica is just a paid for hit man.

The other day Cowherd was talking about advice he gave a young pup at ESPN and said "Don't worry about being right...just be entertaining"

 

[CousCuse]

I don't understand that comment at all.

Doug looks like he could be Kotites son.

 

[Crusty]

Doug looks like he could be Kotites son.

That may be but where does the rest come from? Bigotry - racism?

 

[CousCuse]

That may be but where does the rest come from? Bigotry - racism?

Using a person's physical likeness to another person and using that as a reason to make a character judgment about them is the definition of bigotry. And that is what Lupica was doing in that statement.

 

[jr4750]

First of all, Doug Marrone is a very, very good football coach. Those denying it in this thread are most likely die hard Bills fans deflecting some of their displeasure with the way he left. Doug Marrone is also a bit of a dikhead who isn't easy to like. That probably also contributes to some of the disconnect between his coaching ability and certain posters perception of his coaching ability.

First of all, a sample size of 2 years in the NFL is pretty darn insignificant. To the poster who claimed he wasn't as good as Bilichick so therefore he stinks. Bilichick went 6-10, 7-9, 7-9, 11-5, and 5-11 his years in Cleveland. He went 5-11 his first year in New England. Suddenly Tom Brady shows us and he's a genius.

Bill Walsh was 2-14 and 6-10 his first 2 years at San Fran. Joe Montanta became Joe Montana and that was it.

Bill Parcells was 3-8 in his only year coaching collegiate football. He took over a Giants team that was 9-7 and 4-5 (strike) the year before he got there. You know what his record was in year 1? He won 3 freaking games.

Now, is Doug going to be a Parcells or Bilichik, etc? I have no idea, nor am I insinuating that. I am intrigued to see what he can do with competent quarterback play.

Well said, which makes me think he should go to Atlanta and ride Ryan's coat tails for a while.

 

[RMH44]

Using a person's physical likeness to another person and using that as a reason to make a character judgment about them is the definition of bigotry. And that is what Lupica was doing in that statement.

Wow...you continue to make huge "leaps" in this and the other Marrone thread! Almost as huge as Hunt for the Heisman.

 

[AZOrange]

I agree with you that he lacks a desirable personality, but he knows football. He rubs many people the wrong way, and that is clearly an issue to many. However, he is greatly respected amongst the highest level of coaches in the NFL. Owners and management are well aware of that, plus he has Jimmy s e xton as his power agent.

At the end of the day, he should work on his employment departures, but such is life.

The irony here is that his departure was pretty much set in stone the day he signed that contract with that clause.

 

[rrlbees]

Using a person's physical likeness to another person and using that as a reason to make a character judgment about them is the definition of bigotry. And that is what Lupica was doing in that statement.

That is just whacked. The article says why the comparison. Bigotry? Lol. They don't even look alike. But they are both local to NYC and are immediately available. Just wow.

 

[Millhouse]

Using a person's physical likeness to another person and using that as a reason to make a character judgment about them is the definition of bigotry. And that is what Lupica was doing in that statement.

You are crazy

 

[Bayside44]

I don't understand that comment at all.

Lupica is calling Doug an outer borough meathead. Since he no longer knows anything about anything hes' trying to draw a tie in to other Jets failures with the NY angle. Lupica is a dope.

 

[AZOrange]

The only way to settle this is to have the jets hire Doug and the bills hire rexy. Then battle!

 

[CousCuse]

You are crazy

Rich Kotite for Jets fans is like Grob for Orange fans. If Syracuse was going to hire a coach who had a RESEMBLENCE to Grob and a media guy said he was a young Grob , you think that would be fair.

 

[baggerbob]

First of all, Doug Marrone is a very, very good football coach. Those denying it in this thread are most likely die hard Bills fans deflecting some of their displeasure with the way he left. Doug Marrone is also a bit of a dikhead who isn't easy to like. That probably also contributes to some of the disconnect between his coaching ability and certain posters perception of his coaching ability.

First of all, a sample size of 2 years in the NFL is pretty darn insignificant. To the poster who claimed he wasn't as good as Bilichick so therefore he stinks. Bilichick went 6-10, 7-9, 7-9, 11-5, and 5-11 his years in Cleveland. He went 5-11 his first year in New England. Suddenly Tom Brady shows us and he's a genius.

Bill Walsh was 2-14 and 6-10 his first 2 years at San Fran. Joe Montanta became Joe Montana and that was it.

Bill Parcells was 3-8 in his only year coaching collegiate football. He took over a Giants team that was 9-7 and 4-5 (strike) the year before he got there. You know what his record was in year 1? He won 3 freaking games.

Now, is Doug going to be a Parcells or Bilichik, etc? I have no idea, nor am I insinuating that. I am intrigued to see what he can do with competent quarterback play.

He is not a very, very good football coach until he actually wins something like a conference championship. The only championship he tied for in his last year of the Big East, but he can be called a good coach. You and others act like he has done something great, he hasn't , but I believe if he finally manages to put self aside, and stays the course at a job he can become a great coach. Greatness comes from putting self aside, and fighting through adversity, so far Doug hasn't shown the ability to stay the course.

 

[Crusty]

Rich Kotite for Jets fans is like Grob for Orange fans. If Syracuse was going to hire a coach who had a RESEMBLENCE to Grob and a media guy said he was a young Grob , you think that would be fair.

What does fair have to do with it? Lupica who is a god sports reporter, was pointing out the similarity that both were home town boys. Nothing wrong with that. Whether or not you like it, Kotitie had a better record going in that Marrone will have.