Marrone

[samspann1]

Yeah, he only posted the best record the Bills have had since 2004. For a team that has only had two years over 500 since 2000 (one being this season), you Bills fans have irrationally high expectations and want those lofty expectations to be met very quickly.

Yes, the Bills, like 9 other AFC teams, had a winning record this year. The Bills' record against those 9 teams was 1-5, with the only win coming in the regular season finale, in a game that was meaningless for both teams.

Maybe the Bills can re-hire Mularkey, their last "winning" coach?

 

[gocraz4dasu]

Yes, the Bills, like 9 other AFC teams, had a winning record this year. The Bills' record against those 9 teams was 1-5, with the only win coming in the regular season finale, in a game that was meaningless for both teams.

Maybe the Bills can re-hire Mularkey, their last "winning" coach?

Or you can hire another coach and fall back under 500 for another decade.

 

[Millhouse]

Yeah, he only posted the best record the Bills have had since 2004. For a team that has only had two years over 500 since 2000 (one being this season), you Bills fans have irrationally high expectations and want those lofty expectations to be met very quickly.

Thanks for your concern. We should be happy with 15-17 because jauron sucks. Ok

 

[Chip]

Thanks for your concern. We should be happy with 15-17 because jauron sucks. Ok

You are what your record says you are. Unless the Pats 16th game is meaningless.

It was an 8-8 team with a great defensive coordinator, offensive skill position talent, no QB and no OL. How will they survive without Marrone?

 

[samspann1]

Or you can hire another coach and fall back under 500 for another decade.

Sure, we can focus on the sterling 9-7 record and ignore the context, some of which I mentioned above.

Never mind that said 9-7 record wasn't enough to make the playoffs.

Never mind that it was the offense and specifically the OL (supposed strengths of Marrone, no?) which failed the Bills and cost them a playoff spot.

It's all good though, as the Bills can just promote Schwartz to HC. I mean, as the Lions' HC, he led them to their first playoff berth in over a decade, so he must be a good HC, right???

 

[CuseOnly]

Enough talent to get to a bowl in year 2. But then again, that year was almost all Shafer.

Kind of like Gus Malzahn went 12-2 with Chizik's talent and a NC game loss last year and went 8-4 in 2014?? Maybe Gus is terrible too, hadn't thought about that.

 

[CuseOnly]

Thanks for your concern. We should be happy with 15-17 because jauron sucks. Ok

You should be happy with 9-7 because the Bills haven't seen that in 10 years. Period.

 

[gocraz4dasu]

Sure, we can focus on the sterling 9-7 record and ignore the context, some of which I mentioned above.

Never mind that said 9-7 record wasn't enough to make the playoffs.

Never mind that it was the offense and specifically the OL (supposed strengths of Marrone, no?) which failed the Bills and cost them a playoff spot.

It's all good though, as the Bills can just promote Schwartz to HC. I mean, as the Lions' HC, he led them to their first playoff berth in over a decade, so he must be a good HC, right???

For 10 years you were unable to reach 9 wins. Some of those years were ones with difficult schedules and some with easier schedules. None of those teams put it together to win the games. Marrone was able to do so with EJ Manuel and Kyle Orton at the helm. The defense may have carried the team but Marrone still was able to put together a season with 9 wins.

 

[djorange1989]

Yes, the Bills, like 9 other AFC teams, had a winning record this year. The Bills' record against those 9 teams was 1-5, with the only win coming in the regular season finale, in a game that was meaningless for both teams.

Maybe the Bills can re-hire Mularkey, their last "winning" coach?

Didn't the Bills beat two NFC playoff teams in Green Bay and Detroit? With Kyle fu**ing Orton at QB? Guess you wanted to make sure to only mention what they did against winning AFC teams. How convenient.

 

[SUFan44]

He didn't increase the talent level? Get a clue.

Name one skill position player on offense that joined Syracuse during his tenure that is an impact guy.

 

[rrlbees]

Reality is he coached SU to their first 8 win season since 2001, and coached the Bills to their first winning record since 2004. I doubt it was an accident.

It wasn't an accident. He's shown he can take a bad program to average. That's a good thing. But he's yet to show he can reach the next level and turn a program into a very good or great program.

 

[Chip]

Didn't the Bills beat two NFC playoff teams in Green Bay and Detroit? With Kyle fu**ing Orton at QB? Guess you wanted to make sure to only mention what they did against winning AFC teams. How convenient.

They beat them with Jim Schwarz. Packers scored 13 and the Lions scored 14. It's not hard to put up 17 with a bad QB and good skill position guys.

 

[Symphony Steve]

The talk about how good a coach he is is almost irrelevant.

This was a d i c k move in every sense of the word. If the Jets get him, they deserve him.

If I were even considering hiring him, the way that he left Buffalo would convince me not to do it. More and more, he comes across like someone you can't trust.

 

[CuseOnly]

It wasn't an accident. He's shown he can take a bad program to average. That's a good thing. But he's yet to show he can reach the next level and turn a program into a very good or great program.

Problem with that is that if only bad teams hire him to turn them around, he may never get the chance before moving on. Seems there is a very very well paid market for coaches that can turn programs around.

 

[CuseOnly]

The talk about how good a coach he is is almost irrelevant.

This was a d i c k move in every sense of the word. If the Jets get him, they deserve him.

If I were even considering hiring him, the way that he left Buffalo would convince me not to do it.

Almost irrelevant...unless of course you are running a Billion dollar franchise with Billions riding on your decision and millions of fans waiting for you to make the right one.

 

[CuseOnly]

They beat them with Jim Schwarz. Packers scored 13 and the Lions scored 14. It's not hard to put up 17 with a bad QB and good skill position guys.

Who hired Schwarz? Yeah, I think that was a Marrone decision, Schwarz didn't get hired on his own... and quite frankly wasn't a proven great DC before he got to Buffalo. He certainly was not a good HC.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

If the Jets get him, they deserve him.

If he goes to the Jets, he deserves them.

 

[CuseOnly]

If he goes to the Jets, he deserves them.

He will go where the most money is and where he has the most support from the program..certainly not back to SU so who cares. Just like in a Bronx tale...Marrone isn't paying my mortgage so who cares.

 

[Millhouse]

You should be happy with 9-7 because the Bills haven't seen that in 10 years. Period.

That's stupid

 

[Symphony Steve]

Almost irrelevant...unless of course you are running a Billion dollar franchise with Billions riding on your decision and millions of fans waiting for you to make the right one.

The point is, if you can't trust him to stay put, then what good does it do you to hire him (assuming you think he's the Savior, which he has yet to demonstrate) if he's gonna use some codicil in his contract to bolt at the first opportunity?

I don't get this, and my initial thought is there's something about him that's not quite right.

Does anyone have an explanation that makes sense? I agree, if he finds another NFL HC job, my antennae would be up for possible tampering charges. If not, he may have committed career suicide.

 

[CuseOnly]

The point is, if you can't trust him to stay put, then what good does it do you to hire him (assuming you think he's the Savior, which he has yet to demonstrate) if he's gonna use some codicil in his contract to bolt at the first opportunity?

I don't get this, and my initial thought is there's something about him that's not quite right.

Does anyone have an explanation that makes sense? I agree, if he finds another NFL HC job, my antennae would be up for possible tampering charges. If not, he may have committed career suicide.

Both sides can't be trusted to "stay put". What exactly are you saying?? He has clearly demonstrated that he can bring programs from the abyss to winning records. The contract "out" was agreed to on both sides, it wasn't Marrone on his own. They knew there was a possibility of an ownership change.

The fact is that he is smart and covered his own ass like a very good businessman.

 

[samspann1]

They beat them with Jim Schwarz. Packers scored 13 and the Lions scored 14. It's not hard to put up 17 with a bad QB and good skill position guys.

Bills had a ST TD against GB, and were the beneficiary of horrendous kicking by the Detroit kicker (IIRC, the kicker was waived that following Monday).

 

[Symphony Steve]

Both sides can't be trusted to "stay put". What exactly are you saying?? He has clearly demonstrated that he can bring programs from the abyss to winning records. The contract "out" was agreed to on both sides, it wasn't Marrone on his own. They knew there was a possibility of an ownership change.

The fact is that he is smart and covered his own ass like a very good businessman.

He walked out on a good gig. Time will tell if he was 'smart'.

He sure didn't display any loyalty with this move or, come to think of it, his last one.

Being a good businessman, if that is what he is, is not the same as being a coach who his players, or teams, including GM's, can trust. Plus, if he doesn't get another NFL HC gig, just how smart a businessman is he?

 

[samspann1]

Didn't the Bills beat two NFC playoff teams in Green Bay and Detroit? With Kyle fu**ing Orton at QB? Guess you wanted to make sure to only mention what they did against winning AFC teams. How convenient.

I don't make the NFL tiebreaker rules, but I'm pretty sure that conference record is the 2nd tiebreaker. So yeah, I think their record against AFC teams is more important than their record against NFC teams. Ultimately, it didn't matter, as Marrone's boys no-showed in a must-win game vs. the Raiders.

 

[Chip]

Who hired Schwarz? Yeah, I think that was a Marrone decision, Schwarz didn't get hired on his own... and quite frankly wasn't a proven great DC before he got to Buffalo. He certainly was not a good HC.

I've said a couple times that he's great at hiring defensive coordinators.

But I think you're also saying that the defensive coordinators are only good because of Marrone.

Imagine if he could have that kind of impact on an offense.