Okay, let's fire

[Idiocuse22&]

I think someone mentioned that we may be "loose" with our millions and that is a very interesting nugget we should hear about in the future.

What does this mean?

"loose" response to a post within this very thread.

 

[dan7800]

You and I have talked about this. This is the biggest problem at hand. Forget the basketball team record, there’s some serious smoke with what’s going on up there

I am feeling the same way. Do share.

 

[Bulldog04]

I am feeling the same way. Do share.

There will be a giant microscope on KS soon. I’ll leave it at that for right now

 

[Cuse4455]

KS is using the millions to build EVEN smaller glasses than the ones he currently has.

 

[JeremyCuse]

There is no question in my mind that there is something very wrong with the "books" at Syracuse. And that is the first thing that needs to be fixed. I think there is a good chance we will hear about this subject down the line.

There's nothing wrong with the books, the issue is that SU has to come up with 20+ million next year for NIL and right now isn't close. That's why the program is bussing to certain games and Sau is trying to save where they can.

 

[dasher]

There's nothing wrong with the books, the issue is that SU has to come up with 20+ million next year for NIL and right now isn't close. That's why the program is bussing to certain games and Sau is trying to save where they can.

I'm not sure you are correct. There is no reason that we should be so short that we are busing to games. There is smoke in the athletic budget.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

I don’t want Red gone (at least not yet) - the team is so poorly constructed - we have no PG - we have no one who gets to the rim - we have no shooting - and most of all we have no rim protection whatsoever - we need a PG next year - we need JJ back and we need Freeman back - we just don’t have the players and I’m not sure that’s Rees fault

Red constructed the team. We don’t have a center recruited for next year and convincing a good transfer to come will be a very difficult job. Why would anyone good come? Not enough NIL, to be coached by a former guard who doesn’t have any credits or accolades, on a team that has been steaming from mediocre to the basement.

Why would Freeman come back? If he’s not convinced he’ll be drafted high enough, some team with better tournament prospects and/or more money might poach him. Let’s hope he’s determined to stick with us through thick and thin, but that’s not the world most live in.

 

[JeremyCuse]

I'm not sure you are correct. There is no reason that we should be so short that we are busing to games. There is smoke in the athletic budget.

There is smoke, it's that SU went from having to provide a few million to 20+ overnight. That's a ton of money for a private university to have to come up with less thena years notice. There's no conspiracy or funneling away from athletics like the 90s, it's the house settlement.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

You and I have talked about this. This is the biggest problem at hand. Forget the basketball team record, there’s some serious smoke with what’s going on up there

Air conditioning the carrier dome costs a lot of money. Someone keeps leaving the door open.

 

[billsin01]

Exactly. That is all we are doing. We have no real answers. I don't. Just a lot of complaining about what is.
If you are in a position of authority, it is a whole different game. We should have hired outside the program. But that was then. Here we are. I don't believe we can fire Red because I don't believe we have anywhere near the money to even fire him. Let alone hire someone good. I hope I am wrong.

Not sure if anyone else brought this up but what about forcing his hand on his staff? Could we allocate more money for assistants and require him to replace at least two, or maybe the whole crew?

Maybe Red is a decent CEO but needs X’s and O’s help? Not unheard of.

My biggest concern with Red is the guys he’s had a chance to watch play and practice intimately and chosen to feature or at least keep around:

JJ (good kid, talented athlete, not a star basketball player)

Benny — actively brought him back after two miserable, tumultuous seasons.

Bell — I’ve been impressed with his improvement in certain areas this year (working harder on defense, moving a bit more on offense) but, let’s face it, it has not worked out.

Taylor — bringing him back last year was odd to me. Just didn’t feel like a winning player at an ACC level at any point in two full seasons.

That crew is puzzling to me. You can give Red some credit for Judah (yes, people hate the kid, but at least a very talented hoops player) and retaining Brown and Q for a second year. That I like. But, man, building around JJ and Bell with a big NIL deal for Lampkin felt strange to me all summer. It feels worse now.

But, anyway, maybe the assistants are gone and we try to bring in a new crew to support red at the top?

 

[Cuse4455]

A Gtown fan page on X called Autry "AAU Autry" and it genuinely made me chuckle.

 

[mayselc]

Ehh ,,, From the outside, Red looks like what we were afraid of getting in Fran - a recruiter who doesn't really have in-game coaching chops.

Fran was the number one recruiter in the country. Not really a fair comparison.

If there are no performance-based buyout clauses in contracts for first time head coaches, to me that's malpractice by the AD.

 

[mayselc]

I mean his name is on the practice facility. Also NIL just started, it’s possible Melo wasn’t gonna do anything until he saw where Kiyan went

His name came with $3 mil, just saying.

 

[FRANKIEFAN]

You enjoy the football season? Because without moving, we wouldn't have that

ACC is crazy soft and there for the taking if we resemble 90s Syracuse.

Don't forget Miami has been terrible since they left the Big East and this was there best season (the dungey drop kick year ironically was their next best so whenever we play them they're good since we haven't played them at all but they get ranked high and finish 7-5 or 6-6.)

I'd bet money that Miami has a losing record to UVA since joining the conference those losers always drop that game just like their bowl.

BC and Virginia Tech ran train on this conference in football when we were waiting for our invite.

God I want Belichick and Diaz to implode next year and Wake be the best NC school at the end like they often are.

 

[BigNastyJon]

I absolutely hate the “bring in an Xs and Os guy” argument.

They’re all paid to coach. They should all be Xs and Os guys.

 

[jdubs30]

I absolutely hate the “bring in an Xs and Os guy” argument.

They’re all paid to coach. They should all be Xs and Os guys.

Listen to Reds pressers then listen to a Danny Hurley presser. It’s night and day. Either Red keeps everything extremely tight lipped and boiler plate, or he’s clueless

 

[MamesJungro]

This thread is strange. How could we possibly know about the donor pipeline or accounting for Syracuse Athletics without wildly speculating?

NBA alums will never be a top tier prospect for advancement staff. Very limited years they are able to earn at high level and taxed at a high rate, although useful to connect with prospects with better LTV.

Problem is and remains that Red is one of the worst bench coaches I’ve ever seen, and this year chose players through the portal with glaring shortcomings that we’re easily identifiable to anyone with a passing familiarity with basketball

 

[DPCuse]

Colgate is 2-9 and only 3 losses have come against P4 programs. I know he's the local guy but I'd hope for better.

To be fair, they have had some key injuries and lost their point guard to Gonzaga in the portal. He’s still a great coach.

 

[Cusefan78]

Hoops brings in 32 million. I don’t know how that money is being spent but it isn’t very efficient given the state of the program. The 2nd best revenue producing squad should not be crying poverty when it comes to coaching. If we can’t compete with powerhouse cash cows like….. [checks list] Marquette, then we have bigger problems than Red

Football and basketball is funding everything. They need to cut spending for the Olympic sports teams and go all in on men’s football and men’s basketball. No one cares about women’s basketball unless you have Caitlin Clark on the team. That’s the fact of the matter. The money mismanagement has always been the problem at Syracuse.

 

[OCESIP]

I will make you a promise. We will be back.

That's to be seen, but in the long run the portal and NIL
are two major factors that have changed college sports
forever. Until we can prove we have the financial resources
year in and year out to compete we're going to hold our
breath each year and hope for the best. That comes with
hiring a coaching staff with big $$ also.

 

[DPCuse]

There is smoke, it's that SU went from having to provide a few million to 20+ overnight. That's a ton of money for a private university to have to come up with less thena years notice. There's no conspiracy or funneling away from athletics like the 90s, it's the house settlement.

5-10 years ago, donors gave money to university’s athletic programs to support them. Now, donors are splitting money between NIL and programs which is cramping university budgets. This arrangement won’t be able to survive long term for most schools.

 

[elimunelson]

He’s got to
Go this year. Whatever other mental
Gymnastic exercise you want to do is irrelevant

We hired bruiser flint but 10x worse. What a tremendous fail by Wildhack Boeheim the boosters the board of trustees

Ashamed of Syracuse to let this happen.

 

[qdawgg]

I don't see why he would ever want to coach again, to be honest.
Two titles at his alma mater. His players are doing great in the NBA.
Be a broadcaster. Hang around the industry, but really zero pressure.

For the same reason BB came back to not only coach football but coach possibly the worst thing to coach at the present time, CFB. Because for some of these coaches it’s literally in their blood, it’s all they really know and care about. Is that Jay Wright? No clue but it also wouldn’t be some massive surprise if he had interest.

 

[Cusefan0307]

A new coach would want his guy. That isn't complicated. If you were a new coach, you want the old coaches guy?

Probably, but we aren’t going to find someone with a better pedigree. He’s the best hire Red has made.

 

[Red2003]

This is the Melo factor.

Melo could take us to another level if he wanted to ……. But does he want?

Now is the time for Melo and more importantly LaLa.

Funny story I caught some posts about where UNC was getting money for all this crap with Bellicheck and they were pleading poverty. They were talking about building a casino next to campus so they could get Jordan to come back. Apparently Jordan doesn't believe in NIL ha and won't give back to UNC. Or so they said