Class of 2019 - QB Garrett Shrader (NC) TRANSFERRING TO SYRACUSE (12/19/20) | Page 14 | Syracusefan.com

Class of 2019 QB Garrett Shrader (NC) TRANSFERRING TO SYRACUSE (12/19/20)

Kid is a playmaker with his feet wow. Looks faster than Dungey was to me but has that instinct and ability to break tackles and make guys miss. His tape shows improvement in pocket awareness as the season progresses. He was stepping up into the pocket a lot more later in the tape than earlier.

Throwing the ball he reminds me of Rex quite a bit in both throwing motion and how some of the throws either had too much on them or too little. He isn't super accurate but definitely is a lot more accurate than Rex. Deep balls weren't awful but took too long to get there. As a passer there is something to work with there for sure. He isn't as fast or as good of a passer right now but his game most reminds me of Lamar Jackson. A very poor man's version of Lamar of course but the acceleration when he takes off jumps off the tape and this was against strong competition in the Big 12 and and SEC. Before I get eviscerated I am not saying this kid is going to be Lamar - just in the style of play and how he runs.

Something else that is exciting is that with Tucker and Lutz you have two backs with really good vision. Add in a QB on the RPO who is a serious threat and you are going to get LBs and Ends gambling more which can really help the running game. Dino/Gilbert can use tempo with the running game a lot more and then use the shorter/intermediate passing game mixed in and work on adding more from there. It is exciting to think about how the running game could look with this kid if he wins the job or a share of the job.
 
tep624 said:
No he was going to go there to hand out cups of Gatorade.
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GoSU96 said:
the line is going to be so much better, Great competition for the receiver corp, the three freshmen, Alford, hopefully heathy Hendrix

predict Devito goes for 3500 30/10
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Is that for: 30 sacks and 10 INT’s?
 
Orangezoo said:
Kid is a playmaker with his feet wow. Looks faster than Dungey was to me but has that instinct and ability to break tackles and make guys miss.
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Eh... he also kinda seems to have that instinct to make guys paste him once and a while.
 
O_YY said:

Wasn't sure which board to post this on, feel free to move if this is the wrong one.
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That dive for a first down about a minute into the clip was impressive.
 
SWC75 said:
I agree with most of the observations here: He'll do wonders for our running attack. I'm not sure how much he upgrades our passing attack. Despite his 'long' wind-up and follow through, he seems to get passes off quickly enough. I think he throws the sideline pass better than Dungy, who tended to float them out there. But GS's accuracy on the long pass seems to be an adventure. Sometimes he doesn't get enough air under them. The big thing is that he can create on the run, which Tommy, (and Rex) can't . He'll make good plays Tommy wouldn't have made and he'll make bad plays Tommy wouldn't make.

He's not a 'savior'. he another guy in the mix, the 4 star we needed to recruit after Tommy to compete with him and back him up and have the inside track on being "the next guy". And the next guy could still be named Morgan, Markiewicz or Lamson. the competition in the spring and fall should be fun.

Don't you wish all highlight films looked like this? Warts and all, baby! This is what the coaches see. The fans see You-Tube and HUDL videos in which a guy looks like the next Tom Brady or Steph Curry- all the passes are complete and all the shots go in. I think you can probably tell more from the plays that don't work than the ones that do.
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Two likes for this. Especially the last paragraph.
 
The big thing here is really the synergy he will have with Moorhead in 2022 2023. We won't have to endure anymore "it takes four years for the offense to get humming" takes.
 
Dino is bringing him in to win the job.

247sports.com

Why QB Garrett Shrader chose Syracuse: 'I'm not coming to sit'

While Syracuse football offensive coordinator Sterlin Gilbert was navigating the end of a tumultuous 2020 season, he was actively working to bolster his unit's chances of an
247sports.com 247sports.com

Why QB Garrett Shrader chose Syracuse: 'I'm not coming to sit'

BySTEPHEN BAILEY 22 hours ago



While Syracuse football offensive coordinator Sterlin Gilbert was navigating the end of a tumultuous 2020 season, he was actively working to bolster his unit's chances of an improved campaign next fall. For the past month or so, Gilbert has been heavily recruiting Mississippi State transfer quarterback Garrett Shrader.

A former four-star recruit who entered the transfer portal two months ago, Shrader committed to the Orange on Saturday night. Speaking with 247Sports on Sunday, he outlined the pitch Gilbert and head coach Dino Babers made to him.

"I wanted to go somewhere that has a pretty wide-open offense," Shrader said. "That was the biggest thing. I don't really care about the cold. I know we don't really have to deal with it playing in the Dome anyway. That was the biggest thing. I wanted to go somewhere where we put up points. I don't want to just be a game manager.


"... I wanted to go somewhere that's explosive where we throw the ball a lot, have an RPO game with a quarterback run and obviously (have) bunch of talent around (the quarterback) because you're only as good as the people around him. So Syracuse checked all of those boxes with me."

A sophomore, Shrader is set to enroll at SU in January and arrive on campus when returnees come back from holiday break around Jan. 20. Currently, he'll have to sit out the 2021 season due to NCAA transfer rules unless he's granted an immediate eligibility waiver. However, the NCAA Division I Council is scheduled to vote on a one-time transfer proposal next month, which could pave the way for Shrader to battle with redshirt junior Tommy DeVito starting this spring.

Shrader started four games for Mississippi State in 2019 and appeared in 10 contests, completing 57.5 percent of his passes for 1,170 yards, eight touchdowns and five interceptions. He also rushed for 587 yards (5.2 ypc) and six scores, displaying the mobility that SU's coaches told Shrader could help offset the team's recent offensive line woes.

After Mike Leach was hired to replace Joe Moorhead as MSU head coach this January, Shrader was moved to wide receiver. He stayed for four games in an effort to help the team and with the understanding that the NCAA had given fall athletes an extra year of eligibility as well as an extension of their participation window. But Shrader said he's always viewed himself as a quarterback, and he was diligent in learning about transfer options once he hit the portal.

Shrader said he also strongly considered Louisville and Virginia Tech, but fit in the Orange's scheme, as well as a clearly outlined opportunity to compete for the starting job, were the two facts that led him to picking Syracuse. A conversation with Babers late in the process validated the notion that Shrader will get a chance to beat out DeVito, the two-year starter who played through injuries in 2019 before missing seven games due to a lower-leg injury this fall.

"I like Coach Babers a lot," Shrader said. "He's very excited, very energetic guy, passionate. He said he's not bringing someone in to be the backup. He's bringing me in to compete and ultimately try to win the job. I'm not coming to sit.

"That was a big thing when he said that. He said, 'I'm not bringing you in to sit here and back up. I need you to go win the job.' But he said, 'I'm not going to hand it to you.' He wants me to come in and make that quarterback run better and make the team better, and that's what I'm trying to do."

Shrader said he watched film with Syracuse coaches of other dual-threat quarterbacks to operate in versions of the veer-and-shoot run by Babers and Gilbert. That includes former Orange signal-caller Eric Dungey as well as two South Florida standouts who worked under Gilbert: Quinton Flowers and Blake Barnett. The way those three players were able to contribute as runners, scramblers and passers piqued Shrader's interest. He was able to see himself succeeding under Babers and Gilbert with aspirations of putting up the prolific statistics of that trio.

As a senior in 2018, Dungey racked up 754 rushing yards and 15 scores to go with 2,868 passing yards and 18 touchdowns to nine interceptions. Flowers totaled 1,078 rushing yards and 11 touchdowns as a senior at USF in 2017, adding 2,911 yards, 25 touchdowns and six interceptions. Then Barnett rushed for 301 yards and eight touchdowns as a junior for the Bulls the next fall, throwing for 2,710 yards, 12 touchdowns and 11 interceptions.




"They showed me what it was like at its peak with guys who had similar builds or could do similar stuff that I can in the run game and pass game," Shrader said. "That's what I was looking for."


Shrader said he's eager to get to campus, begin winter conditioning and meet his new teammates. With Syracuse planning for a full offseason of training and development work, Shrader is expected to get his first chance to impress Babers and Gilbert when spring practice opens, traditionally in March.

Said Shrader: "When we get to start playing, I'm confident in my skill set. So when it comes down to that, I think that'll take care of itself. Once you get to competing, you go out and play."
 
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OttoinGrotto said:
Eh... he also kinda seems to have that instinct to make guys paste him once and a while.
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Yeah, he gets pasted.. Dungey had his share too though. I think we need to have a lot more firepower running the ball and this kid brings the potential for that. Teams defended the pass well in the spread but we showed we could get large chunks at times with the run... Add the qb as a threat and we can feature the running game so much more.
 
Orangezoo said:
Yeah, he gets pasted.. Dungey had his share too though. I think we need to have a lot more firepower running the ball and this kid brings the potential for that. Teams defended the pass well in the spread but we showed we could get large chunks at times with the run... Add the qb as a threat and we can feature the running game so much more.
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The running JS will bring is definitely welcome. I think Hunt was maybe the best we've had that was an instinctual runner but that also had a sense for how to avoid getting trucked. JS is a cannonball, but he takes some big licks too.
 
qdawgg said:
Is that for: 30 sacks and 10 INT’s?
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he was 2360, 19/5 in 2019

better line, better run game, more plays there‘s no reason he can’t reach that prediction
 
newmexicuse said:
Dino is bringing him in to win the job.

Why QB Garrett Shrader chose Syracuse: 'I'm not coming to sit'

BySTEPHEN BAILEY 22 hours ago



While Syracuse football offensive coordinator Sterlin Gilbert was navigating the end of a tumultuous 2020 season, he was actively working to bolster his unit's chances of an improved campaign next fall. For the past month or so, Gilbert has been heavily recruiting Mississippi State transfer quarterback Garrett Shrader.

A former four-star recruit who entered the transfer portal two months ago, Shrader committed to the Orange on Saturday night. Speaking with 247Sports on Sunday, he outlined the pitch Gilbert and head coach Dino Babers made to him.

"I wanted to go somewhere that has a pretty wide-open offense," Shrader said. "That was the biggest thing. I don't really care about the cold. I know we don't really have to deal with it playing in the Dome anyway. That was the biggest thing. I wanted to go somewhere where we put up points. I don't want to just be a game manager.


"... I wanted to go somewhere that's explosive where we throw the ball a lot, have an RPO game with a quarterback run and obviously (have) bunch of talent around (the quarterback) because you're only as good as the people around him. So Syracuse checked all of those boxes with me."

A sophomore, Shrader is set to enroll at SU in January and arrive on campus when returnees come back from holiday break around Jan. 20. Currently, he'll have to sit out the 2021 season due to NCAA transfer rules unless he's granted an immediate eligibility waiver. However, the NCAA Division I Council is scheduled to vote on a one-time transfer proposal next month, which could pave the way for Shrader to battle with redshirt junior Tommy DeVito starting this spring.

Shrader started four games for Mississippi State in 2019 and appeared in 10 contests, completing 57.5 percent of his passes for 1,170 yards, eight touchdowns and five interceptions. He also rushed for 587 yards (5.2 ypc) and six scores, displaying the mobility that SU's coaches told Shrader could help offset the team's recent offensive line woes.

After Mike Leach was hired to replace Joe Moorhead as MSU head coach this January, Shrader was moved to wide receiver. He stayed for four games in an effort to help the team and with the understanding that the NCAA had given fall athletes an extra year of eligibility as well as an extension of their participation window. But Shrader said he's always viewed himself as a quarterback, and he was diligent in learning about transfer options once he hit the portal.

Shrader said he also strongly considered Louisville and Virginia Tech, but fit in the Orange's scheme, as well as a clearly outlined opportunity to compete for the starting job, were the two facts that led him to picking Syracuse. A conversation with Babers late in the process validated the notion that Shrader will get a chance to beat out DeVito, the two-year starter who played through injuries in 2019 before missing seven games due to a lower-leg injury this fall.

"I like Coach Babers a lot," Shrader said. "He's very excited, very energetic guy, passionate. He said he's not bringing someone in to be the backup. He's bringing me in to compete and ultimately try to win the job. I'm not coming to sit.

"That was a big thing when he said that. He said, 'I'm not bringing you in to sit here and back up. I need you to go win the job.' But he said, 'I'm not going to hand it to you.' He wants me to come in and make that quarterback run better and make the team better, and that's what I'm trying to do."

Shrader said he watched film with Syracuse coaches of other dual-threat quarterbacks to operate in versions of the veer-and-shoot run by Babers and Gilbert. That includes former Orange signal-caller Eric Dungey as well as two South Florida standouts who worked under Gilbert: Quinton Flowers and Blake Barnett. The way those three players were able to contribute as runners, scramblers and passers piqued Shrader's interest. He was able to see himself succeeding under Babers and Gilbert with aspirations of putting up the prolific statistics of that trio.

As a senior in 2018, Dungey racked up 754 rushing yards and 15 scores to go with 2,868 passing yards and 18 touchdowns to nine interceptions. Flowers totaled 1,078 rushing yards and 11 touchdowns as a senior at USF in 2017, adding 2,911 yards, 25 touchdowns and six interceptions. Then Barnett rushed for 301 yards and eight touchdowns as a junior for the Bulls the next fall, throwing for 2,710 yards, 12 touchdowns and 11 interceptions.




"They showed me what it was like at its peak with guys who had similar builds or could do similar stuff that I can in the run game and pass game," Shrader said. "That's what I was looking for."


Shrader said he's eager to get to campus, begin winter conditioning and meet his new teammates. With Syracuse planning for a full offseason of training and development work, Shrader is expected to get his first chance to impress Babers and Gilbert when spring practice opens, traditionally in March.

Said Shrader: "When we get to start playing, I'm confident in my skill set. So when it comes down to that, I think that'll take care of itself. Once you get to competing, you go out and play."
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When you cut and paste from an article you need to include the link. This means from any news site. If you don't I'll have to delete the post.

And I shouldn't need to say this but if it is payside info from a paysite don't post it.
 
GoSU96 said:
he was 2360, 19/5 in 2019

better line, better run game, more plays there‘s no reason he can’t reach that prediction
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I’m busting chops. Sorry if that’s not always obvious. If the offense is playing the way it did a couple years ago he absolutely can.
 
Just because Dino is bringing him in and making it an open competition with Tommy doesn’t mean he actually expects Schrader to win.

but when you are 1-10 and your QB has missed significant time the last two years you need to bring in competition and everyone should expect it.
 
CuseLegacy said:
When you cut and paste from an article you need to include the link. This means from any news site. If you don't I'll have to delete the post.

And I shouldn't need to say this but if it is payside info from a paysite don't post it.
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sorry about that, i did try to copy the link, but it did not copy for some reason, so if you need to delete go ahead.
 
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