Shafer

[Alsacs]

Coaches who give terrible press conferences should definitely be fired.

Belichick intentionally gives the media dull persona where he says nothing because the Boston media spin anything into the end of the world with their cynical criticism.

If Belichick likes the media reporter he won't be dull and will give an answer. His schtick is strictly in relation to the Boston media sucking.

Shafer when he brought ISIS into a postgame press conference was ridlicious. We all know it's a game and not real life but Shafer melted down.

 

[TheCusian]

Belichick has more in common with Babers, than Shafer re: press conferences. Controlled, knows what he wants to share, even keel, etc.

 

[orangecuse]

Coaches who give terrible press conferences should definitely be fired.

Interesting response from you. Considering the larger point of the poster's remark was that he was foremost a bad coach and terrible in game decision maker. As with many people who have a high degree of success where it matters most (such as a sales rep who constantly produces high sales, but has shoddy paperwork, etc., wins. vs. losses for a coach) it's much easier to overlook.

 

[cuse10]

What Shafer people?

Check NunesMagician, the comments on Syracuse Football's Instagram/Twitter pages and Syracuse.com. When I pointed out the circumstances of his hire, his inability to coach or recruit, someone on IG actually told me I should die. I flipped the script on her and she had nothing to say after.

 

[storange]

Belichick intentionally gives the media dull persona where he says nothing because the Boston media spin anything into the end of the world with their cynical criticism.

If Belichick likes the media reporter he won't be dull and will give an answer. His schtick is strictly in relation to the Boston media sucking.

Shafer when he brought ISIS into a postgame press conference was ridlicious. We all know it's a game and not real life but Shafer melted down.

Belichick is a the best coach on the NFL and a raging ass-ole. He goes by the mantra " If your not cheating , your not trying"

 

[storange]

Shafer's Defense was dirty and the faking was ludicrous. I was a Shafer fan until Saturday. The act by #7 to try to stop the substitution penalty was outright comical.

 

[Trueblue25]

Any fan who doesnt think Shafer "coached" himself right out of Syracuse hasn't been watching college football long enough. That is not how you rebuild success, and clearly not how you sustain it. His actions during and after his tenure here are irrelevant to me. Notice how its taking Dino over a year to cleanup his mess. This game doesnt phase my faith in the current staff at all. We're still ailing from how bad we were becoming under Shafe.

 

[Alsacs]

Any fan who doesnt think Shafer "coached" himself right out of Syracuse hasn't been watching college football long enough. That is not how you rebuild success, and clearly not how you sustain it. His actions during and after his tenure here are irrelevant to me. Notice how its taking Dino over a year to cleanup his mess. This game doesnt phase my faith in the current staff at all. We're still ailing from how bad we were becoming under Shafe.

One of the best posts on this board since Saturday.
Really nice job summarizing the situation.

 

[storange]

This may not be a popular opinion buuuuuut...

Complaining about class is for losers.

Then I'm an absolute loser. I'm coaching a HS varsity team. #1 on my list of season goals ( that I gave to players) is...Represent our school with class and ethics at all times. Yea, having class is important to me and I hope SU.

 

[HOFCeluck]

Then I'm an absolute loser. I'm coaching a HS varsity team. #1 on my list of season goals ( that I gave to players) is...Represent our school with class and ethics at all times. Yea, having class is important to me and I hope SU.

Sorry I lost interest in this.

 

[storange]

So they give bowl games to teams that lose but do it honestly?

Actually they do now ...sort of. ( see 5-7 trams bowl criteria)

 

[storange]

Sorry I lost interest in this.

Good

 

[Pyle]

One of the best posts on this board since Saturday.
Really nice job summarizing the situation.

Best posts my arse. Maybe you and your buds can all get together and high five each other and go share a milkshake. I'm seeing so much BS in this thread it's ridiculous.

Let's start with Shafer couldn't recruit shall we? What a bunch of BS. People are mad because we can't run the ball but if you look around the forum DB supposedly ran off our best RB in Jordan Fredricks who was recruited by Shafer. Shafer also brought in Dungey who before Saturday was being called the best SU QB since McNabb. The board went nuts over Ishmael. Remember that stud DT who was supposed to anchor our line this year but got Tucked? Yeah that was Shafer too.

As for Shafer gloating, good for him. He got completely 'ed by SU. He deserved his cigar. So many people are saying what a cluster 2015(corrected) was. Maybe some of you have very short memories but the fact is Hunt went down in the first game. Dungey was forced to play as a frosh. Then he got hurt. By the end of the season we were playing a freaking walk-on QB but people are pissed because he couldn't win a game to finish the season. Do you bozos understand we aren't a plug and play team like UM or Bama? The season was lost in 2014 when we lost our QBs. Had nothing to do with Shafer or his staff. Yeah he was learning on the job, but I have no doubts with a healthy QB he could have won more than DB last year.

As for that whole we don't need a defense because our offense is so good well guess what. Shafer's D beat Dino' O on saturday. And Dino's offense still couldn't win a game they scored over 60 points in. Fact is you don't win games with just offense or just defense. You need BOTH! I'm very afraid that Dino's defense will never be able to stand up to ACC offenses week in and week out. I haven't seen one indication of it other than him beating up some Class D high school team to open up the season.

As for this whole BS claim that he shouldn't have been given the HC position in the first place? I disagree, plenty of programs hire from within after a successful run. The fact is if Shafer didn't get the job, the entire community was practically threatening to burn down the dome. To compare him to Grob is laughable. Grob was playing his first sting QB and still couldn't gain over 100 yards, that wasn't the case with Shafer's offense. Not even close.

 

[HOFCeluck]

Best posts my arse. Maybe you and your buds can all get together and high five each other and go share a milkshake. I'm seeing so much BS in this thread it's ridiculous.

Let's start with Shafer couldn't recruit shall we? What a bunch of BS. People are mad because we can't run the ball but if you look around the forum DB supposedly ran off our best RB in Jordan Fredricks who was recruited by Shafer. Shafer also brought in Dungey who before Saturday was being called the best SU QB since McNabb. The board went 'ing nuts over Ishmael. Remember that stud DT who was supposed to anchor our line this year but got Tucked? Yeah that was Shafer too. As for Shafer gloating, good for him. He got completely 'ed by SU. He deserved his cigar. So many people are saying what a cluster 2012 was. Maybe some of you have very short memories but the fact is Hunt went down in the first game. Dungey was forced to play as a frosh. Then he got hurt. By the end of the season we were playing a freaking walk-on QB but people are pissed because he couldn't win a game to finish the season. Do you bozos understand we aren't a plug and play team like UM or Bama? The season was lost in 2012 when we lost our QBs. Had nothing to do with Shafer or his staff. Yeah he was learning on the job, but I have no doubts with a healthy QB he could have won more than DB last year. As for that whole we don't need a defense because our offense is so good well guess what. Shafer's D beat Dino' O on saturday. And Dino's offense still couldn't win a game they scored over 60 points in. Fact is you don't win games with just offense or just defense. You need BOTH! I'm very afraid that Dino's defense will never be able to stand up to ACC offenses week in and week out. I haven't seen one indication of it other than him beating up some Class D high school team to open up the season. As for this whole BS claim that he shouldn't have been given the HC position in the first place? I disagree, plenty of programs hire from within after a successful run. The fact is if Shafer didn't get the job, the entire community was practically threatening to burn down the dome. To compare him to Grob is laughable. Grob was playing his first sting QB and still couldn't gain over 100 yards, that wasn't the case with Shafer's offense. Not even close.

I didn't read all this but I bet you feel better.

 

[SWC75]

Interesting response from you. Considering the larger point of the poster's remark was that he was foremost a bad coach and terrible in game decision maker. As with many people who have a high degree of success where it matters most (such as a sales rep who constantly produces high sales, but has shoddy paperwork, etc., wins. vs. losses for a coach) it's much easier to overlook.

I was aware of his main point. Obviously Shafer does not = Belichick. I just don't understand what press conferences have to do with whether a coach would be retained.

 

[TheCusian]

I was aware of his main point. Obviously Shafer does not = Belichick. I just don't understand what press conferences have to do with whether a coach would be retained.

if your repping the school, don't say dumb ****

 

[Pyle]

I didn't read all this but I bet you feel better.

Do you? For replying to something you didn't even read? I am laughing.

 

[GoSU96]

Check NunesMagician, the comments on Syracuse Football's Instagram/Twitter pages and Syracuse.com. When I pointed out the circumstances of his hire, his inability to coach or recruit, someone on IG actually told me I should die. I flipped the script on her and she had nothing to say after.

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm going to do.

Anyone who thinks he should have been given more time is an idiot, and who here has taken that position?

Now some of the most vocal now were his biggest supporters when it was obvious he wasn't getting the job done, but not much you can do about amnesia or hypocrisy.

 

[Alsacs]

I didn't read all this but I bet you feel better.

I stopped reading it after he said Shafer was screwed.

When we hired Shafer we hired a MAC staff going into the ACC.

Not hiring Shafer wouldn't have caused locals to burn the Dome.

We went cheap and paid for it. The guy wasn't getting a HC job and Syracuse gave him a P5 job.

 

[Pyle]

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm going to do.

Anyone who thinks he should have been given more time is an idiot, and who here has taken that position?

Now some of the most vocal now were his biggest supporters when it was obvious he wasn't getting the job done, but not much you can do about amnesia or hypocrisy.

Mitch Kimble had to take meaningful snaps in 2015(corrected), maybe it's you with the amnesia? Or do you think you could have won games with Kimble?

 

[Pyle]

I stopped reading it after he said Shafer was screwed.

When we hired Shafer we hired a MAC staff going into the ACC.

Typical. Disagree with a point and just ignore what the person says. It's no wonder we are raising a generation of people looking for safe places. I read your nonsense even though I disagree with all of it.

 

[TheCusian]

Best posts my arse. Maybe you and your buds can all get together and high five each other and go share a milkshake. I'm seeing so much BS in this thread it's ridiculous.

Let's start with Shafer couldn't recruit shall we? What a bunch of BS. People are mad because we can't run the ball but if you look around the forum DB supposedly ran off our best RB in Jordan Fredricks who was recruited by Shafer. Shafer also brought in Dungey who before Saturday was being called the best SU QB since McNabb. The board went 'ing nuts over Ishmael. Remember that stud DT who was supposed to anchor our line this year but got Tucked? Yeah that was Shafer too. As for Shafer gloating, good for him. He got completely 'ed by SU. He deserved his cigar. So many people are saying what a cluster 2012 was. Maybe some of you have very short memories but the fact is Hunt went down in the first game. Dungey was forced to play as a frosh. Then he got hurt. By the end of the season we were playing a freaking walk-on QB but people are pissed because he couldn't win a game to finish the season. Do you bozos understand we aren't a plug and play team like UM or Bama? The season was lost in 2012 when we lost our QBs. Had nothing to do with Shafer or his staff. Yeah he was learning on the job, but I have no doubts with a healthy QB he could have won more than DB last year. As for that whole we don't need a defense because our offense is so good well guess what. Shafer's D beat Dino' O on saturday. And Dino's offense still couldn't win a game they scored over 60 points in. Fact is you don't win games with just offense or just defense. You need BOTH! I'm very afraid that Dino's defense will never be able to stand up to ACC offenses week in and week out. I haven't seen one indication of it other than him beating up some Class D high school team to open up the season. As for this whole BS claim that he shouldn't have been given the HC position in the first place? I disagree, plenty of programs hire from within after a successful run. The fact is if Shafer didn't get the job, the entire community was practically threatening to burn down the dome. To compare him to Grob is laughable. Grob was playing his first sting QB and still couldn't gain over 100 yards, that wasn't the case with Shafer's offense. Not even close.

As someone who used to defend SS, let me save you some time. When you ask yourself if he handled everything the job entailed well enough to build a consistent winner - the judgement is a definitive NO.

His recruiting was a touch better than Marrone's was in the Big East. It was not trending up quickly enough. He won 2 ACC games his last year, 3 the year before.

 

[Alsacs]

Typical. Disagree with a point and just ignore what the person says. It's no wonder we are raising a generation of people looking for safe places. I read your nonsense even though I disagree with all of it.

If you clean it up I will finish.
Try spacing things out.

Shafer was an awful hire at the time. He was hired to continue the Marrone mediocrity.

 

[TheCusian]

Mitch Kimble had to take meaningful snaps in 2012, maybe it's you with the amnesia? Or do you think you could have won games with Kimble?

Too good to let it slide. But I think Kimble was a HC freshman in 2012. Marrone was our coach and Nassib was lighting up the Big East when they still played football.

Amnesia?

 

[HOFCeluck]

Do you? For replying to something you didn't even read? I am laughing.

I read part of it, by my eyes could take only so much of that wall o' text.

Catharsis is nice tho.