Slick Rick

[Cusefan95]

St John’s underperformed so far. Syracuse overperformed so far. St John’s has guys in graduate school. A lot of Syracuse players haven’t even started taking 300 level classes yet.

Curious what you’re using to conclude St Johns underperformed for the year. They were picked to finish 5th in the Big East, and be a double digit seed in the NCAAs. They finished 5th in the Big East, and are probably going to be a double digit seed in the NCAAs.

Objectively, they did exactly what they were projected to do. I wouldn’t call this a phenomenal coaching job by Pitino like some here are doing - but claiming this was an underperformance is just as ridiculous.

 

[hoopsupstate]

So in your mind, the 20-13 record, finishing 5th in conference, and making the NCAA tournament warrants your glowing remarks on Pitino being one of the best, if not the best coach out there right now? That’s your criteria? Haha awesome.

The Pitino praise & perceived mystique on this board by a few select posters will always be one of the wildest ideas in this space to me

SU was picked 10th and finished in a three way tie for fifth.

 

[sufan59]

Curious what you’re using to conclude St Johns underperformed for the year. They were picked to finish 5th in the Big East, and be a double digit seed in the NCAAs. They finished 5th in the Big East, and are probably going to be a double digit seed in the NCAAs.

Objectively, they did exactly what they were projected to do. I wouldn’t call this a phenomenal coaching job by Pitino like some here are doing - but claiming this was an underperformance is just as ridiculous.

Emphasizing “so far”. The narrative on St John’s can still change depended on what they do in the tourney. I don’t think many thought they would be a bubble team at this stage in the season.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

The 5th ranked team in the Big East who finished with the same 20 win game total as Syracuse? How impressed are you with Red Autry this season?!

Pretty impressed.

 

[orangecuse]

So in your mind, the 20-13 record, finishing 5th in conference, and making the NCAA tournament warrants your glowing remarks on Pitino being one of the best, if not the best coach out there right now? That’s your criteria? Haha awesome.

The Pitino praise & perceived mystique on this board by a few select posters will always be one of the wildest ideas in this space to me

 

[Madbiker]

So is St John's getting a #5 seed because of the reputation of Slick Rick? Likely will be massively over-seeded.

 

[Cusefan95]

Emphasizing “so far”. The narrative on St John’s can still change depended on what they do in the tourney. I don’t think many thought they would be a bubble team at this stage in the season.

They were projected to be double digit seed. That is, by definition, a bubble team.

Are you really this committed to proving how utterly wrong you are? Because I’m impressed at your determination to do so…

 

[two3zone]

So in your mind, the 20-13 record, finishing 5th in conference, and making the NCAA tournament warrants your glowing remarks on Pitino being one of the best, if not the best coach out there right now? That’s your criteria? Haha awesome.

The Pitino praise & perceived mystique on this board by a few select posters will always be one of the wildest ideas in this space to me

Two things can be true, Red had a great year and Rick had a great year.

Personally I think both had incredible but different difficulties. Rick had to start from scratch, Red had to deal with a bunch of rotation regulars not being able to play.

I don’t know why complimenting one person means you’re knocking someone else down.

 

[orangecuse]

Yeah I guess we all got our mistresses pregnant in a restaurant tryst and then paid her off to have an abortion(this is not a sermon on abortion to be clear, this is an example of how big a scumbag he is). The world isn’t black and white, kind of a big difference between what you use as examples vs Rick. And yes he is a fantastic coach

We all have the capacity to compartmentalize, etc. Whether one does or not depends on how they choose to roll or see fit. One's morality depends upon one's belief system.

Interestingly, you (we all here) voluntarily choose to root for a school that has one of its all time greats (on the field) in the ring of honor, a statue for, etc., yet had bouts with moral, along with criminal, should we say, shortcomings, along his off the field journeys through life.

 

[hoopsupstate]

1 game separated 5-9 .

One game puts us in fourth too!

 

[Cuse181]

slick rick was also hired away from college to coach NBA. JB not so much.

Wouldn’t surprise me at all if JBA had gotten an NBA call, not that he was ever going to leave

 

[Cuse181]

The 5th ranked team in the Big East who finished with the same 20 win game total as Syracuse? How impressed are you with Red Autry this season?!

not all records are made the same. 20 wins for St. John’s gets them in the tourney meanwhile Syracuse is a unseeded NIT team at best

 

[orangecuse]

One game puts us in fourth too!

Hence, why the league is probable to be a 4 bid one, with other than the standard two, teams that will be double digit, and/or play-in type seeds in the Dance.

 

[hoopsupstate]

Hence, why the league is probable to be a 4 bid one, with other than the standard two, teams that will be double digit, and/or play-in type seeds in the Dance.

I think if you look at all the conference standings, you will see a large group of teams within one game of each other.

 

[orangecuse]

I think if you look at all the conference standings, you will see a large group of teams within one game of each other.

Perhaps, but, as you know, all conference standings are not created equal.

 

[tbonezone]

Unc. Duke , NC st. and either pitt or UVA . voters will see this NCST run as enuf. maybe 5.

 

[djorange1989]

We all have the capacity to compartmentalize, etc. Whether one does or not depends on how they choose to roll or see fit. One's morality depends upon one's belief system.

Interestingly, you (we all here) voluntarily choose to root for a school that has one of its all time greats (on the field) in the ring of honor, a statue for, etc., yet had bouts with moral, along with criminal, should we say, shortcomings, along his off the field journeys through life.

Touché

 

[two3zone]

Wouldn’t surprise me at all if JBA had gotten an NBA call, not that he was ever going to leave

 

[two3zone]

Wouldn’t surprise me at all if JBA had gotten an NBA call, not that he was ever going to leave

Pretty sure the Bullets called.

 

[Cuse181]

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[AlaskaSU]

Yeah I guess we all got our mistresses pregnant in a restaurant tryst and then paid her off to have an abortion(this is not a sermon on abortion to be clear, this is an example of how big a scumbag he is). The world isn’t black and white, kind of a big difference between what you use as examples vs Rick. And yes he is a fantastic coach

Not to mention his prostitutional recruiting.

 

[two3zone]

Not to mention his prostitutional recruiting.

You don’t think recruits were getting women hooked up with them on every recruiting trip on any campus every visit?

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Yeah I guess we all got our mistresses pregnant in a restaurant tryst and then paid her off to have an abortion(this is not a sermon on abortion to be clear, this is an example of how big a scumbag he is). The world isn’t black and white, kind of a big difference between what you use as examples vs Rick. And yes he is a fantastic coach

A restaurant quickly hardly makes her a mistress and “Paid her off” is a bit sexist. Her body her choice. She would have received much more in child support.
Was likely a planned (by her) pregnancy for a shake down. No one actually knows if it was his child.

Pitino: Defendant in extortion trial initiated tryst

Louisville basketball coach Rick Pitino has told a jury he had sex with a former model charged with demanding millions from him.

www.espn.com

And she’s a felon. https://amp.kentucky.com/news/local/crime/article130976449.html

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Not to mention his prostitutional recruiting.

That’s a tale as old as recruiting. They used to be called “hostesses.”

 

[Cusefan95]

Pretty sure the Bullets called.

I can’t find anything online to confirm, but I think the Pistons contacted JB to see if he had any interest when Daly retired. Could be others as well, but if teams made contact and JB didn’t interview - it would be in the best interest of both parties to do their best to keep it out of public knowledge.

I think the “Nobody in the NBA ever wanted JB” claim requires an awful lot of assumptions and presuppositions that can’t be defended well.