So... Did Benny end up going to practice?

[OttoinGrotto]

If Burgan doesn’t get suspended for 7 games and Walton is allowed to play, that team would’ve been solid.

Walton would have been awesome for us.

I remember watching the McDonald's game. He was legit. Would have been another in the line of great do it all forwards in program history.

 

[kcsu]

Why?

I was watching Cats again over the Holidays and the old Cat is named asparagus called Gus in the play. Hes a great character who obviously isnt as strong as he used to be but he is still held in high esteem by all.
Anyway thats where it came from.

 

[Col. Bleep]

First Row (Sitting L-R): Erik Frazier, Jason Hart, Ryan Blackwell, Jason Cipolla, Otis Hill, Todd Burgan, Winfred Walton, JeCarl Riggins, James May

Second Row (Standing L-R): Bernie Fine (Asst. Coach), Jim Boeheim (Head Coach), Louis Orr (Asst. Coach), Evan Vogel, Ramel Lloyd, Marius Janulis, Elvir Ovcina, Etan Thomas, LaSean Howard, Mike Hopkins (Asst. Coach), Todd Blumen (Grad Asst.)

Elvir!
Head and shoulders above everyone!

 

[djcon57]

No idea really but in the nba Bowen was a far better defensive player.

he was, wasn’t he?

yet he averaged over 1 less steal a game for his career so per your analysis of defensive analytics, Iverson must have a much better defensive rating than Bowen, right?

he doesnt.

so suggesting that someone that has great steal numbers has good advanced defensive metrics is wrong. Not sure why you thought that tbh

 

[rrlbees]

he was, wasn’t he?

yet he averaged over 1 less steal a game for his career so per your analysis of defensive analytics, Iverson must have a much better defensive rating than Bowen, right?

he doesnt.

so suggesting that someone that has great steal numbers has good advanced defensive metrics is wrong. Not sure why you thought that tbh

You might want to go read the sports reference site. And if you weren’t talking about DBPM, I don’t care because I was. Just like everyone’s always referencing.

 

[djcon57]

You might want to go read the sports reference site. And if you weren’t talking about DBPM, I don’t care because I was. Just like everyone’s always referencing.

everyone?

So... Did Benny end up going to practice?

The Malik Brown we see now is not the Malik Brown we saw in November. He was lost on defense and struggled in his limited minutes. None of this shows up in analytical data. At all. In fact, literally the opposite 5 mins vs Richmond - DRtg 108, Second Best on team 4 mins vs Bryant - DRtg 98...

syracusefan.com

I talked about DRtg literally IN the thread.

 

[rrlbees]

everyone?

So... Did Benny end up going to practice?

The Malik Brown we see now is not the Malik Brown we saw in November. He was lost on defense and struggled in his limited minutes. None of this shows up in analytical data. At all. In fact, literally the opposite 5 mins vs Richmond - DRtg 108, Second Best on team 4 mins vs Bryant - DRtg 98...

syracusefan.com

I talked about DRtg literally IN the thread.

And I wasn’t responding to you when you jumped in and responded to me. And btw, DRtg is for a single game. DBPM is season to date. And you’ve touted box metrics for the past few years. But with DBPM being shown as not reliable then BPM isn’t reliable because DBPM makes up 1/2 of BPM.

 

[djcon57]

And I wasn’t responding to you when you jumped in and responded to me. And btw, DRtg is for a single game. DBPM is season to date. And you’ve touted box metrics for the past few years. But with DBPM being shown as not reliable then BPM isn’t reliable because DBPM makes up 1/2 of BPM.

DRtg is not just for single game at all. that’s incorrect. You can view our players current DRtg in the per 100 stats. Shockingly, it matches what anyone who watched the games think it would.

Box Metrics are much more useful than reg plus minus which also gets crapped on here, but I don’t suggest box is the end all be all by any means.

the reason I use box so often on the board is because the only thing some like to go here on is JB’s word and alleged practice reports. Its like debating faith with a religious person. I’m just trying to give some sort of angle to my opinion vs “coach said so”

but all good. we can agree to disagree if you feel like they are useless

 

[DCUNITED13]

I'm glad Benny is back at practice. Unlike some of the other individuals listed earlier in the thread he is working to contribute under this adversity and not quit. Frankly, how many of you in your life have been passed over for "promotion" or a "tasty" assignment. Not a great feeling and all need an AA (Attitude Adjustment) day to sort things out.

There is a lot of folks on these boards "punching down" on our players. Opening these special threads/topics on players who are underperforming. But I like to think other players stepped up for what we needed. We have 5 Freshmen (2 starting) and a 1st Year starter. We have a starter playing his position for the first time and another starter coming off an injury that ended his season.

Of our last 5 losses, four(4) (And yes UNC will be ranked next week) have come against ranked teams and they were close (maybe reaching there with the 1st UVA game). This is not surprising given the inexperience of three(3) of our starters and the first three(3) off the bench. (Taylor/Brown/Hima). We could have won four (4) of the games we lost had we executed plays at the end. (SJU/Bryant/Pitt/UNC). Had we executed and played well the entire game we could have won two (2) more (Miami & UVA at home). Did not happen. I'm not happy, but we were almost there.

Would have loved to have different results in close games listed in the paragraph above. But results speak for themselves and thusly, I think this is an NIT team. I wished for NCAAs but even with a fantastic end of regular season (7-1 or 6-2) we will need to win ACC Tourney to get an invite.

GO CUSE

 

[GoCuse14]

Good grief, maybe take a step back for a day or so.

I was watching Cats again over the Holidays and the old Cat is named asparagus called Gus in the play. Hes a great character who obviously isnt as strong as he used to be but he is still held in high esteem by all.
Anyway thats where it came from.

 

[donniesyracuse]

I'm glad Benny is back at practice. Unlike some of the other individuals listed earlier in the thread he is working to contribute under this adversity and not quit. Frankly, how many of you in your life have been passed over for "promotion" or a "tasty" assignment. Not a great feeling and all need an AA (Attitude Adjustment) day to sort things out.

There is a lot of folks on these boards "punching down" on our players. Opening these special threads/topics on players who are underperforming. But I like to think other players stepped up for what we needed. We have 5 Freshmen (2 starting) and a 1st Year starter. We have a starter playing his position for the first time and another starter coming off an injury that ended his season.

Of our last 5 losses, four(4) (And yes UNC will be ranked next week) have come against ranked teams and they were close (maybe reaching there with the 1st UVA game). This is not surprising given the inexperience of three(3) of our starters and the first three(3) off the bench. (Taylor/Brown/Hima). We could have won four (4) of the games we lost had we executed plays at the end. (SJU/Bryant/Pitt/UNC). Had we executed and played well the entire game we could have won two (2) more (Miami & UVA at home). Did not happen. I'm not happy, but we were almost there.

Would have loved to have different results in close games listed in the paragraph above. But results speak for themselves and thusly, I think this is an NIT team. I wished for NCAAs but even with a fantastic end of regular season (7-1 or 6-2) we will need to win ACC Tourney to get an invite.

GO CUSE

Is “tasty assignment” something people actually say?

 

[orangefog]

Is “tasty assignment” something people actually say?

I think they just type it now.

 

[BigNastyJon]

Is “tasty assignment” something people actually say?

That’s what I call trying to eat 10 of the old dome dogs in one half.

 

[orangefog]

That’s what I call trying to eat 10 of the old dome dogs in one half.

I call that a "Plumber's Nightmare"

 

[DCUNITED13]

Dedicate this to the last 3 posters and Bennie William Haters

Violent Femmes

I need someone, a person to talk to
Someone who'd care to love
Could it be you?
Could it be you?
Situation gets rough, and I start to panic
It's not enough, it's just a habit, and
Kid, you're sick
Well, darling, this is it
You can all just kiss off into the air
Behind my back, I can see them stare
They'll hurt me bad, but I won't mind
They'll hurt me bad, they do it all the time (yeah, yeah)
Yeah, they do it all the time (yeah, yeah)
They do it all the time (do it all the time)
They do it all the time (do it all the time)
They do it all the time, do it all the time
I hope you know that this will go down on your permanent record
Oh, yeah, well, don't get so distressed
Did I happen to mention that I'm impressed?
I take one, one, one 'cause you left me
And two, two, two for my family
And three, three, three for my heartache
And four, four, four for my headaches
And five, five, five for my lonely
And six, six, six for my sorrow
And seven, seven for no tomorrow
And eight, eight, I forget was eight was for
But nine, nine, nine for the lost gods
Ten, ten, ten, ten for everything, everything, everything, everything
You can all just kiss off into the air
Behind my back, I can see them stare
They'll hurt me bad, but I won't mind
They'll hurt me bad, they do it all the time (yeah, yeah)
Yeah, they do it all the time (yeah, yeah)
Yeah, they do it all the time (do it all the time)
Do it all the time (do it all the time)
Do it all the time, time, time, time, time, time, time (do it all the time)
T-t-t-t-t-t-time, time, time, time, time (do it all the time)
Do it all the time

 

[orangefog]

Dedicate this to the last 3 posters and Bennie William Haters

Violent Femmes

I need someone, a person to talk to
Someone who'd care to love
Could it be you?
Could it be you?
Situation gets rough, and I start to panic
It's not enough, it's just a habit, and
Kid, you're sick
Well, darling, this is it
You can all just kiss off into the air
Behind my back, I can see them stare
They'll hurt me bad, but I won't mind
They'll hurt me bad, they do it all the time (yeah, yeah)
Yeah, they do it all the time (yeah, yeah)
They do it all the time (do it all the time)
They do it all the time (do it all the time)
They do it all the time, do it all the time
I hope you know that this will go down on your permanent record
Oh, yeah, well, don't get so distressed
Did I happen to mention that I'm impressed?
I take one, one, one 'cause you left me
And two, two, two for my family
And three, three, three for my heartache
And four, four, four for my headaches
And five, five, five for my lonely
And six, six, six for my sorrow
And seven, seven for no tomorrow
And eight, eight, I forget was eight was for
But nine, nine, nine for the lost gods
Ten, ten, ten, ten for everything, everything, everything, everything
You can all just kiss off into the air
Behind my back, I can see them stare
They'll hurt me bad, but I won't mind
They'll hurt me bad, they do it all the time (yeah, yeah)
Yeah, they do it all the time (yeah, yeah)
Yeah, they do it all the time (do it all the time)
Do it all the time (do it all the time)
Do it all the time, time, time, time, time, time, time (do it all the time)
T-t-t-t-t-t-time, time, time, time, time (do it all the time)
Do it all the time

Benny Williams: I need someone to spell my name right.

 

[sweetpea]

Dedicate this to the last 3 posters and Bennie William Haters

Violent Femmes

I need someone, a person to talk to
Someone who'd care to love
Could it be you?
Could it be you?
Situation gets rough, and I start to panic
It's not enough, it's just a habit, and
Kid, you're sick
Well, darling, this is it
You can all just kiss off into the air
Behind my back, I can see them stare
They'll hurt me bad, but I won't mind
They'll hurt me bad, they do it all the time (yeah, yeah)
Yeah, they do it all the time (yeah, yeah)
They do it all the time (do it all the time)
They do it all the time (do it all the time)
They do it all the time, do it all the time
I hope you know that this will go down on your permanent record
Oh, yeah, well, don't get so distressed
Did I happen to mention that I'm impressed?
I take one, one, one 'cause you left me
And two, two, two for my family
And three, three, three for my heartache
And four, four, four for my headaches
And five, five, five for my lonely
And six, six, six for my sorrow
And seven, seven for no tomorrow
And eight, eight, I forget was eight was for
But nine, nine, nine for the lost gods
Ten, ten, ten, ten for everything, everything, everything, everything
You can all just kiss off into the air
Behind my back, I can see them stare
They'll hurt me bad, but I won't mind
They'll hurt me bad, they do it all the time (yeah, yeah)
Yeah, they do it all the time (yeah, yeah)
Yeah, they do it all the time (do it all the time)
Do it all the time (do it all the time)
Do it all the time, time, time, time, time, time, time (do it all the time)
T-t-t-t-t-t-time, time, time, time, time (do it all the time)
Do it all the time

I made it through a third of this. I tried.

 

[Jake]

Wow. I remember that pic. That would have been an even more talented squad if Walton had survived more than a couple days / weeks at the Cuse.

The story is that “he” misspelled his name on the SAT. NCAA flagged it.

 

[Day2]

I'm glad Benny is back at practice. Unlike some of the other individuals listed earlier in the thread he is working to contribute under this adversity and not quit. Frankly, how many of you in your life have been passed over for "promotion" or a "tasty" assignment. Not a great feeling and all need an AA (Attitude Adjustment) day to sort things out.

There is a lot of folks on these boards "punching down" on our players. Opening these special threads/topics on players who are underperforming. But I like to think other players stepped up for what we needed. We have 5 Freshmen (2 starting) and a 1st Year starter. We have a starter playing his position for the first time and another starter coming off an injury that ended his season.

Of our last 5 losses, four(4) (And yes UNC will be ranked next week) have come against ranked teams and they were close (maybe reaching there with the 1st UVA game). This is not surprising given the inexperience of three(3) of our starters and the first three(3) off the bench. (Taylor/Brown/Hima). We could have won four (4) of the games we lost had we executed plays at the end. (SJU/Bryant/Pitt/UNC). Had we executed and played well the entire game we could have won two (2) more (Miami & UVA at home). Did not happen. I'm not happy, but we were almost there.

Would have loved to have different results in close games listed in the paragraph above. But results speak for themselves and thusly, I think this is an NIT team. I wished for NCAAs but even with a fantastic end of regular season (7-1 or 6-2) we will need to win ACC Tourney to get an invite.

GO CUSE

Why will UNC be ranked next week? They’ve already lost to Pitt this week and their next game is against an unranked opponent.

 

[orangefog]

I made it through a third of this. I tried.

Maybe just listen to it:

 

[RF2044]

The story is that “he” misspelled his name on the SAT. NCAA flagged it.

Ugh...

 

[rrlbees]

The story is that “he” misspelled his name on the SAT. NCAA flagged it.

Wasn’t the rumor back then that Michigan St (or was it Michigan) was somehow involved?

 

[Jake]

Wasn’t the rumor back then that Michigan St (or was it Michigan) was somehow involved?

Oh right. They pointed it out to the NCAA.

 

[NineOneSeven]

So he’s back

 

[RF2044]

Wasn’t the rumor back then that Michigan St (or was it Michigan) was somehow involved?

I think that's what happened -- not a rumor [just using your word, not calling you out].