The board bashing of Coach

[Scooch]

Greg Robinson, may he rest in peace, probably never set foot within hours of Syracuse, like his boss, before he got the job. Didn't know a high school coach within hours of the place, or the culture, etc. He was never going to get the players with that background and our crappy at the time facilities.

That's about 180 degrees off from Red (or for that matter had the job gone to Gerry) is and now where SU is in the hoops facility chase.

No players no chance. Players he has a chance, so we will see.

Oh, I agree. Just saying that some people get close to these guys and drink the kool aid. Which is fine. It just doesn’t mean anyone is more right than anyone else when it comes to divining the future.

 

[kcsu]

He needs to play zone..

 

[Cuse181]

Signed his guns went quiet but were 3-0. Let's see how Texas goes.

We should be roasting the players not coach.

we roasted the players last year, same story different year? Whats been the constant?

 

[SFCUSE GURU]

Okay. I’ve lurking around this board for years, and 75% of you don’t know about anything. Especially the long time guys, who do nothing but second guess. What is it like with new players? That takes a few minutes to mesh. This team top to bottom is way more talented than last years. It’s not even close, and Red won20 games with a dsifunctional roster. Look at the guys who left pretty much with the exception of a couple went to non power for schools and can’t even put up stats in those places.

 

[two3zone]

He needs to play zone..

With this roster, I have to agree. They're getting open shots and getting into the lane with ease. At least with the zone the inside will be clogged.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

Okay. I’ve lurking around this board for years, and 75% of you don’t know about anything. Especially the long time guys, who do nothing but second guess. What is it like with new players? That takes a few minutes to mesh. This team top to bottom is way more talented than last years. It’s not even close, and Red won20 games with a dsifunctional roster. Look at the guys who left pretty much with the exception of a couple went to non power for schools and can’t even put up stats in those places.

Every team has new players—both out of high school and out of the portal. Isn’t it a measure of a coach/staff to assess how long it takes to get them to mesh? Isn’t it also revelatory to recognize that issues from last year—with mostly different players—still exist with the new players?

Not sure it’s accurate that we’re ”top to bottom” better than last year. I happen to think it’s a mixed bag, and commensurately, we will succeed and fail in mixed ways this year.

 

[Ottoman]

Okay. I’ve lurking around this board for years, and 75% of you don’t know about anything. Especially the long time guys, who do nothing but second guess. What is it like with new players? That takes a few minutes to mesh. This team top to bottom is way more talented than last years. It’s not even close, and Red won20 games with a dsifunctional roster. Look at the guys who left pretty much with the exception of a couple went to non power for schools and can’t even put up stats in those places.

You make some decent points, but the guys that left from last year's team have not all flopped. Judah is in the G-league, Maliq is playing very well for Duke, Benny had 17 pts 7 rebs and 1 block his last game. Heck even Peter Carey is playing well for Siena. These guys weren't all stiffs - and at least 2 possibly 3 of them would be starting today if they stayed. The problem wasn't talent, it was attitude. They didn't get along with the staff and none of us know for sure why that was the case.

 

[sutomcat]

He needs to play zone..

I am going to guess that he will play some zone against Texas. I think he has completely shunned it so far so he can spring it on an opponent in a relatively big game. Like Texas.

I don’t think he is going to play it all game long but will in spots. And we might see some pressing as well.

 

[MSOrange]

Only if his name is JIM BOEHEIM can we bash him incessantly.

No many just criticize when it was warranted and it was warranted late in his career, whether you want to admit it or not, chuck.

 

[Goin' Deep]

I think the "bashing" is more about...just where is this team??
Formal practice started @ 9/25...other than JJ , who stands out consistently on offense??
Defensively, yeah we are brutal. Do we see a TEAM that looks like it has played together??
What is the status of Westry and McLeod?? Supposedly they are good enough physically to play.
Intensity, anticipation on D..precision on O...when do we see it??
OK we're nearly 2 months into the season and 4 more to go...IT'S EARLY but it's also getting late.

 

[Hopkins16]

Some of the bashing of Red is way over the top and some criticism is warranted. I've watched a lot of basketball the past 2 weeks (top D1 teams playing cream puffs and also against very good teams) and like SU, these teams have turned over their roster (due to transfers, new players, graduation, leaving for the draft etc.). These top D1 teams are beating the cream puffs by an expected good margin and are competitive against each other.

What is bothersome and worries the board complainers, myself included, is unlike us, these other teams gel and don't seem like misfits. It appears that they have sound offensive and defensive schemes, don't appear discombobulated, have a game plan and look like they actually practice together.