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Were we really going to give Rak more shots over CJ/Triche/Southerland or CJ/Ennis/Grant?
When he shoots over 60%, absolutly.
Were we really going to give Rak more shots over CJ/Triche/Southerland or CJ/Ennis/Grant?
you don’t know what you don’t know. You are forgiven.
When he shoots over 60%, absolutly.
That first year he shot 53% and we won 30 games, went to the FF and finished 2nd in the BE. I’m not sold giving him more touches would have made us exponentially better. We lost in the FF cause Southerland and MCW stunk.
He also only played around 20 mpg those two years as JB seemed to like to have Keita play a lot to anchor the zone.
I completely agree with you on his usage when BMK was around.That first year he shot 53% and we won 30 games, went to the FF and finished 2nd in the BE. I’m not sold giving him more touches would have made us exponentially better. We lost in the FF cause Southerland and MCW stunk.
He also only played around 20 mpg those two years as JB seemed to like to have Keita play a lot to anchor the zone.
Feel free to share. I don't need to know what coach, nor do i actually care. Just want to know what clandestine reporting tidbit you have.not according to me. According to a coach.
It's fixed.Finish that third sentence!
Feel free to share. I don't need to know what coach, nor do i actually care. Just want to know what clandestine reporting tidbit you have.
The guy with stone hands you refer to is Baye, yes? Fact check: BMK was gone after Rak’s sophomore year. Rak was the primary center in 2013-14 when he was a junior. He showed good promise operating in the lane that season, including in that NC State game in the Dome when he was the leading scorer. But he was still the 4th or 5th offensive option behind CJ, Grant, Ennis, and Cooney. And you can’t object to that decision being that we started the season 25-0. Rak started to emerge as an offensive force during ACC play that season and that’s when we started looking for him more. But it wasn’t until he was a senior that we needed to rely on him as our main offensive guy along with Gbinije.Nobody gave him the ball the first 3 years. Myself and MANY others saw something when he actually did get the ball that warranted him to get it more and when he actually did he had great success.
It doesn't take one summer to go from platooning with a guy with stone hands to an NBA draft pick who carried the team.
The guy with stone hands you refer to is Baye, yes? Fact check: BMK was gone after Rak’s sophomore year. Rak was the primary center in 2013-14 when he was a junior. He showed good promise operating in the lane that season, including in that NC State game in the Dome when he was the leading scorer. But he was still the 4th or 5th offensive option behind CJ, Grant, Ennis, and Cooney. And you can’t object to that decision being that we started the season 25-0. Rak started to emerge as an offensive force during ACC play that season and that’s when we started looking for him more. But it wasn’t until he was a senior that we needed to rely on him as our main offensive guy along with Gbinije.
I've been drunk for like 6 days, but every time I pass by this thread I think it says "this program is in a tree fall" and every single time I say "why are they not correcting this title, maybe we should doc Bees's salary. Then I realize I'm an idiot and can't read.
Still think we should doc bees's salary tho.
You don't love that half as much as I love, every guard on the team conspired to freeze Rak out his junior year, and there was this monster under the rim waiting to rip off 20ppg, but nah no guards wanted to win or wanted help. And of course all coaches were in on it too. Jr. Rak against the world!I love the idea that Rak just didn’t “want it” until he was a senior. And yes, I’m sure a coach is going to say “well we should’ve used him more as a junior, our bad.” Very plausible all around imo.
Yep, agreed.I've been drunk for like 6 days, but every time I pass by this thread I think it says "this program is in a tree fall" and every single time I say "why are they not correcting this title, maybe we should doc Bees's salary. Then I realize I'm an idiot and can't read.
Still think we should doc bees's salary tho.
The guy with stone hands you refer to is Baye, yes? Fact check: BMK was gone after Rak’s sophomore year. Rak was the primary center in 2013-14 when he was a junior. He showed good promise operating in the lane that season, including in that NC State game in the Dome when he was the leading scorer. But he was still the 4th or 5th offensive option behind CJ, Grant, Ennis, and Cooney. And you can’t object to that decision being that we started the season 25-0. Rak started to emerge as an offensive force during ACC play that season and that’s when we started looking for him more. But it wasn’t until he was a senior that we needed to rely on him as our main offensive guy along with Gbinije.
Lol, one guy changing his approach mentally and developing skill is harder to believe than all his teammates not passing him the ball, and coaches being cool with that. I specifically paid attention, and I'm sure others did too when this conspiracy started gaining steam, and I pointed out after that when he'd get the ball and not even attempt to make himself a threat and look to kick it out. At duke that year and after this conspiracy was rolling was one example of watching him want no part of a post move or to score the ball. He played timid.I’m not sure that’s what happened but that scenario is more believable than Rakeem Christmas waking up sometime in the summer of 2014 deciding that he wanted to be an all-ACC caliber big man.
But I get it. Considering how 2014 went off the rails it’s easier to just believe that he wasn’t capable of playing like that.
Nobody gave him the ball the first 3 years. Myself and MANY others saw something when he actually did get the ball that warranted him to get it more and when he actually did he had great success.
It doesn't take one summer to go from platooning with a guy with stone hands to an NBA draft pick who carried the team.
Were we really going to give Rak more shots over CJ/Triche/Southerland or CJ/Ennis/Grant?
You don't love that half as much as I love, every guard on the team conspired to freeze Rak out his junior year, and there was this monster under the rim waiting to rip off 20ppg, but nah no guards wanted to win or wanted help. And of course all coaches were in on it too. Jr. Rak against the world!
Lol, one guy changing his approach mentally and developing skill is harder to believe than all his teammates not passing him the ball, and coaches being cool with that. I specifically paid attention, and I'm sure others did too when this conspiracy started gaining steam, and I pointed out after that when he'd get the ball and not even attempt to make himself a threat and look to kick it out. At duke that year and after this conspiracy was rolling was one example of watching him want no part of a post move or to score the ball. He played timid.
Yeah, you and VT and Ghost and I and a couple others were on this bandwagon from the get-go.
I mean, most definitely. Not more shots than, but more shots out of the total. Especially the last three, since their late-season offensive struggles (and the team's consequent spacing problems) tanked the 2014 season. People were saying it at the time, Rakeem's shooting like 60%, why can't he get more touches when nobody else can buy a basket? And it was a big to-do when he actually did take (and miss) the potential game-winner against BC and Boeheim held this up as the reason for why he shouldn't shoot.
Well they didn't throw it to him for 3 years, snarky sarcasm doesn't change that.I guess the all-time winningest coach/hall of famer, Mike Hopkins and the other coaches were too dumb to figure that out. If someone had just dropped them a line and told them that.
I love the idea that Rak just didn’t “want it” until he was a senior. And yes, I’m sure a coach is going to say “well we should’ve used him more as a junior, our bad.” Very plausible all around imo.
I was speaking to 2013 mostly. We got the most out of that season. You want to argue 2014 fine, but Keita played a lot of minutes that year. Some people think he graduated.