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The question is going to be asked at some point…

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About this season, the make up of the team, everyone coming back next year and if it’s time.

The questions will not be posed to JB, but the post standard will ask Wildhack post season. They are not going to subject Mike or Donna to the wrath of JB at a presser. Back when they were a real newspaper, they’d send a non sports reporter to ask the really difficult questions to protect the beat writers. Will see if they do that again.

Technically it’s JW’s call, but he is in an impossible position. The drumbeats for this not to be run back next year are going to get louder and louder.

It’s going to be a national discussion very soon. The Jay Bilas’s of the world see the personnel decisions. The veiled descriptions about what is going on have already started. It’s just the beginning.

This can end disappointingly, sad or horrifyingly ugly. JB holds those cards.
 
About this season, the make up of the team, everyone coming back next year and if it’s time.

The question will not be posed to JB, but the post standard will ask Wildhack post season. They are not going to subject Mike or Donna to the wrath of JB at a presser. Back when they were a real newspaper, they’d send a non sports reporter to ask the really difficult questions to protect the beat writers. Will see if they do that again.

Technically it’s JW’s call, but he is in an impossible position. The drumbeats for this not to be run back next year are going to get louder and louder.

It’s going to be a national discussion very soon. The Jay Bilas’s of the world see the personnel decisions. The veiled descriptions about what is going on have already started. It’s just the beginning.

This can end disappointingly, sad or horrifyingly ugly. JB holds those cards.
Am I correct to assume this type of thing will happen if they don't go all in on "Senior Day" for Buddy and Jimmy? It seems like that game should force some hands.
 
Technically it’s JW’s call, but he is in an impossible position. The drumbeats for this not to be run back next year are going to get louder and louder.

If the university put into place an AD that was impotent against offramping JB, that’s a huge error on their part.

Wildhack is not in an impossible position, he’s in a tough position. Two very different things. This is his job. It’s why they pay him enough that he doesn’t need to bartend on the weekends to make ends meet.

Step up, do your job and get it done.
 
Wonder if this could be the type of thing that forced JWs hand. Bad performance is one thing but when everyone in the world sees what’s going on, it’s a totally different thing
 
Wonder if this could be the type of thing that forced JWs hand. Bad performance is one thing but when everyone in the world sees what’s going on, it’s a totally different thing
Or it could make him even more stubborn (if that's possible).
 
If the university put into place an AD that was impotent against offramping JB, that’s a huge error on their part.

Wildhack is not in an impossible position, he’s in a tough position. Two very different things. This is his job. It’s why they pay him enough that he doesn’t need to bartend on the weekends to make ends meet.

Step up, do your job and get it done.
The decision and the process are way more nuanced than what you are trying to distill it down to.
 
The decision and the process are way more nuanced than what you are trying to distill it down to.

Thanks, I wasn’t born yesterday.

It’s still his job.

The guy has two probations on his record and a number of other non-probation items that aren’t great.

Wildhack has a job to do. He has to do it, period.
 
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About this season, the make up of the team, everyone coming back next year and if it’s time.

The questions will not be posed to JB, but the post standard will ask Wildhack post season. They are not going to subject Mike or Donna to the wrath of JB at a presser. Back when they were a real newspaper, they’d send a non sports reporter to ask the really difficult questions to protect the beat writers. Will see if they do that again.

Technically it’s JW’s call, but he is in an impossible position. The drumbeats for this not to be run back next year are going to get louder and louder.

It’s going to be a national discussion very soon. The Jay Bilas’s of the world see the personnel decisions. The veiled descriptions about what is going on have already started. It’s just the beginning.

This can end disappointingly, sad or horrifyingly ugly. JB holds those cards.
So... what exactly makes this an impossible situation for Wildhack?

If anything it may be getting easier and easier.
 
About this season, the make up of the team, everyone coming back next year and if it’s time.

The questions will not be posed to JB, but the post standard will ask Wildhack post season. They are not going to subject Mike or Donna to the wrath of JB at a presser. Back when they were a real newspaper, they’d send a non sports reporter to ask the really difficult questions to protect the beat writers. Will see if they do that again.

Technically it’s JW’s call, but he is in an impossible position. The drumbeats for this not to be run back next year are going to get louder and louder.

It’s going to be a national discussion very soon. The Jay Bilas’s of the world see the personnel decisions. The veiled descriptions about what is going on have already started. It’s just the beginning.

This can end disappointingly, sad or horrifyingly ugly. JB holds those cards.

This is why Sean Keeley is wrong about the press conference blow-up. Mike and Donna hardly ask any questions. Boeheim has browbeaten them into silence over the years. Even he was surprised by the lack of questions yesterday.
 
So... what exactly makes this an impossible situation for Wildhack?

If anything it may be getting easier and easier.
It’s tough because there are people on the board, who have influence, that JAB can do no wrong. Force him out and the next coach has a foot in the grave before they even start. They have a few losses? Or a losing season?

“See? You want Boeheim gone and look what happened!”
 
This is why Sean Keeley is wrong about the press conference blow-up. Mike and Donna hardly ask any questions. Boeheim has browbeaten them into silence over the years. Even he was surprised by the lack of questions yesterday.
Yesterdays press conference was weird. When the media starts writing stories and Gottlieb starts saying things, that's when he's going to go off. Or if we lose to a more athletic team that we should beat. That's when JB is going to come into the presser aiming to kill.
 
Am I correct to assume this type of thing will happen if they don't go all in on "Senior Day" for Buddy and Jimmy? It seems like that game should force some hands.

Why Buddy? This is Jimmy’s last year short of getting a waiver but for Buddy this isn’t his last year. He like about 1,000 other players have 1 year remaining. Yes he has said this was his last year but kids have changed their mind many many times.
 
Am I correct to assume this type of thing will happen if they don't go all in on "Senior Day" for Buddy and Jimmy? It seems like that game should force some hands.
They could go through Senior Day but still come back. It's just a ceremonial thing. We've had lots of football players participate in Senior Day but decide to come back. Smyzt is the latest one to come to mind.
 
Why Buddy? This is supplier I be Jimmy’s last year short of getting a waiver but for Buddy this isn’t his last year. He like about 1,000 other players have 1 year remaining. Yes he has said this was his last year but kids have changed their mind many many times.
As you said, he stated a few times that he is done after this year. I would think he wants a Senior Day sendoff.
 
Why Buddy? This is supplier I be Jimmy’s last year short of getting a waiver but for Buddy this isn’t his last year. He like about 1,000 other players have 1 year remaining. Yes he has said this was his last year but kids have changed their mind many many times.

Because he’s JB’s kid. That’s why he’s exactly not like 1,000 other players.

He said he’s done. We’re having a bad year. It will get messy.

This isn’t a normal situation.

And I say this as to no fault of buddy. This is on JB.
 
They could go through Senior Day but still come back. It's just a ceremonial thing. We've had lots of football players participate in Senior Day but decide to come back. Smyzt is the latest one to come to mind.
True. But the question will come up.
 
It’s tough because there are people on the board, who have influence, that JAB can do no wrong. Force him out and the next coach has a foot in the grave before they even start. They have a few losses? Or a losing season?

“See? You want Boeheim gone and look what happened!”
I'm trying to remember when a program had a legendary basketball coach at the end of the line that the program moved on from, and the AD got killed for it.

I don't think there were issues with Lute Olsen/Arizona. Denny Crum/Louisville? I don't think that one was bad. John Thompson and Georgetown? Calhoun and UCONN?

I could be remembering wrong and with an outsider perspective obviously don't really know, but... I feel like if anything moving on is pretty well understood.
 
About this season, the make up of the team, everyone coming back next year and if it’s time.

The questions will not be posed to JB, but the post standard will ask Wildhack post season. They are not going to subject Mike or Donna to the wrath of JB at a presser. Back when they were a real newspaper, they’d send a non sports reporter to ask the really difficult questions to protect the beat writers. Will see if they do that again.

Technically it’s JW’s call, but he is in an impossible position. The drumbeats for this not to be run back next year are going to get louder and louder.

It’s going to be a national discussion very soon. The Jay Bilas’s of the world see the personnel decisions. The veiled descriptions about what is going on have already started. It’s just the beginning.

This can end disappointingly, sad or horrifyingly ugly. JB holds those cards.
Who's your source at the Post Standard?
 
If the university put into place an AD that was impotent against offramping JB, that’s a huge error on their part.

Wildhack is not in an impossible position, he’s in a tough position. Two very different things. This is his job. It’s why they pay him enough that he doesn’t need to bartend on the weekends to make ends meet.

Step up, do your job and get it done.
Let’s be clear here, It doesn’t matter who the athletic Director is JB would still have the final say.
 
Hahaha...Boeheim will unhinge his jaw and swallow that kid whole.

“Hi, John Doe, Daily Orange. Sorry for being out of breath, coach, but I just raced here after my Econ 203 recitation. Really having trouble with that LS / IM curve, thing! Anyway, do you think the downturn in the program can be directly attributed to the choices you’ve made to highlight your kids on this squad? Also, you retiring soon? Thanks. I’d appreciate a quick answer because I need to hit up flip night at Darwin’s.”
 

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