What day will Autry be fired?

[tipphill]

I believe this thread is cruel and innappropriate

 

[miamicuse]

He should resign, to avoid having the University fire him.

Win-win.

How could he resign and still collect the balance of his contract?

 

[Orangezoo]

He took down his big SU flag outside his house. Feel for him. Guy loves SU but that had to hurt because sometimes it’s the small things that make a big impact on ya

Announcing him moving on before season end and trying to work in a way to thank him for taking on the job after JB… if only we could find a way to make that work and go out with grace as it pertains to him moving on.

 

[jr4750]

It stinks when good people get fired, but Red will be fine. He's done a lot of good for SU and been rewarded handsomely. We need to save this dying brand or a lot more heads will role and a lot more SU flags will come down.

 

[miamicuse]

Announcing him moving on before season end and trying to work in a way to thank him for taking on the job after JB… if only we could find a way to make that work and go out with grace as it pertains to him moving on.

Last home game Red out.

 

[Scooch]

I'm not "mad" at Red.

I’ll admit that I’m a little mad at Red. Not a ton. Not furious anger or anything like that.

Red knew that he was very likely going to be the HC at SU for a number of years before he was hired. And yet given all that time to prepare it really seems like he did the bare minimum.

He clearly didn’t scheme up a coherent offense. He didn’t lean into relationships with key donors. He didn’t get past his aversion to fundraising. He didn’t canvas the nation in search of strong assistant coaches. He didn’t do his homework on how NIL and the portal would impact roster construction.

I don’t fault him for taking the job. I was actually supportive of his hiring.

I just wish he put a lot more time and effort into preparing to be successful from day 1 as HC. He didn’t and the results followed.

 

[tptcuse]

It stinks when good people get fired, but Red will be fine. He's done a lot of good for SU and been rewarded handsomely. We need to save this dying brand or a lot more heads will role and a lot more SU flags will come down.

He will do well. He is a home run assistant coach hire or smaller school head coach hire on the East Coast.

 

[MikeSU02]

He took down his big SU flag outside his house. Feel for him. Guy loves SU but that had to hurt because sometimes it’s the small things that make a big impact on ya

This sucks. I know Red has to go, but it just stinks that he was even given the HC job in the first place. Fault lies with many people, but it does suck when you have a dude that was such a big part of the history of SU get relieved of his duties, albeit the right thing to do.

 

[grepal]

That's so sad...

The man will ALWAYS be a part of the SU FAMILY. I really feel badly for him. He was given a shot at a job he likely dreamt of getting. I am sure he gave it his best effort. It is not easy following JAB even if Jim's last few years were his worse.

 

[23Zone]

This is why I don't want GMAC as next coach right now. Refuse to go through this again with a Syracuse legend

 

[elimunelson]

I believe this thread is cruel and innappropriate

I don’t think so. The university isn’t firing him so let’s speculate. If they aren’t there is a 0-5% chance he is retained still due to some insane run in the tourney.

 

[elimunelson]

I’ll admit that I’m a little mad at Red. Not a ton. Not furious anger or anything like that.

Red knew that he was very likely going to be the HC at SU for a number of years before he was hired. And yet given all that time to prepare it really seems like he did the bare minimum.

He clearly didn’t scheme up a coherent offense. He didn’t lean into relationships with key donors. He didn’t get past his aversion to fundraising. He didn’t canvas the nation in search of strong assistant coaches. He didn’t do his homework on how NIL and the portal would impact roster construction.

I don’t fault him for taking the job. I was actually supportive of his hiring.

I just wish he put a lot more time and effort into preparing to be successful from day 1 as HC. He didn’t and the results followed.

He situated himself in the infrastructure that boeheim created. Lazy for sure.

I have no qualms saying this was a disaster and he is a good former player that I enjoyed watching. Can hold two thoughts in my head

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

How could he resign and still collect the balance of his contract?

Deals can be made. John - I think we could agree to part ways (maybe restructure the buy out a bit to help) so lets make a joint announcement. This allows SU to start asking around publicly.

 

[JaySU22]

I’ll admit that I’m a little mad at Red. Not a ton. Not furious anger or anything like that.

Red knew that he was very likely going to be the HC at SU for a number of years before he was hired. And yet given all that time to prepare it really seems like he did the bare minimum.

He clearly didn’t scheme up a coherent offense. He didn’t lean into relationships with key donors. He didn’t get past his aversion to fundraising. He didn’t canvas the nation in search of strong assistant coaches. He didn’t do his homework on how NIL and the portal would impact roster construction.

I don’t fault him for taking the job. I was actually supportive of his hiring.

I just wish he put a lot more time and effort into preparing to be successful from day 1 as HC. He didn’t and the results followed.

Great post. Especially coming into the make or break year 3 where he didn’t upgrade assistants, use the full NIL budget, commit to learning modern offensive schemes etc

 

[kingtidge]

This is scarily the exact sentiment currently being leveraged for Hop. We're going to get a clear-cut answer if this AD has learned anything.

We already have that answer. The AD has learned he has to get out of Dodge...

The AD is retiring and he's being asked by the ACTUAL decision makers to set the table for them on their decisions (once they make them) before he goes, so he's going to do that.

 

[Blanko97]

I would expect SU to accept an NIT invitation. Why would we not? At least let the players play in one more event before it is all blown up.

Zero chance we play as an unseeded nit team in front of 1500 people

 

[djorange1989]

Red is a good man, I will never forget his performance in the Sweet 16 against Mizzou in 1994, I was so proud of him and that team. He is a great Orangeman whose head coaching stint didn’t work out. He will be fine, I bet he gets a lot of assistant offers and I am sure he will be welcomed warmly back at the JMA if/when he returns there

 

[djorange1989]

Zero chance we play as an unseeded nit team in front of 1500 people

Especially when we will be firing Red before the NIT.

 

[Blanko97]

He took down his big SU flag outside his house. Feel for him. Guy loves SU but that had to hurt because sometimes it’s the small things that make a big impact on ya

So he’s just not going to support Syracuse anymore? I recognize the flag thing is more symbolic than it is a literal “removal of support” but the university gave him a lot of opportunity, not exactly their fault it didn’t work out.

 

[Bulldog04]

So he’s just not going to support Syracuse anymore? I recognize the flag thing is more symbolic than it is a literal “removal of support” but the university gave him a lot of opportunity, not exactly their fault it didn’t work out.

I mean it’s his yard lol

 

[Scooch]

He situated himself in the infrastructure that boeheim created. Lazy for sure.

I have no qualms saying this was a disaster and he is a good former player that I enjoyed watching. Can hold two thoughts in my head

He has a lot in common with Jerrod Mayo. You know how awful a comparison that is.

 

[Scooch]

Great post. Especially coming into the make or break year 3 where he didn’t upgrade assistants, use the full NIL budget, commit to learning modern offensive schemes etc

The bolded continues to blow my mind. Wildhack said if Red wanted another assistant, then he'd have the money for another assistant. Red passed. How any head coach in 2025 wouldn't want to be able to get more man hours from his coaching staff is unfathomable.

This is why I'm just a tiny bit mad. There's things just not working out. That happens. But incompetence requires someone making a choice.

 

[CuseFan]

Do you really want to drag this out any longer? At this point in the year, the sooner we officially start the search, the better.

I would be shocked if we haven't begun the search, officially or not. JW is not doing his job if he isn't already in progress finding a replacement and even negotiating with candidate(s), and I fully expect that he is.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

This sucks. I know Red has to go, but it just stinks that he was even given the HC job in the first place. Fault lies with many people, but it does suck when you have a dude that was such a big part of the history of SU get relieved of his duties, albeit the right thing to do.

He absolutely had to be hired. 1. He earned the right. 2. The optics would have been horrific.

 

[Cusefan0307]

He took down his big SU flag outside his house. Feel for him. Guy loves SU but that had to hurt because sometimes it’s the small things that make a big impact on ya

Heard this second hand, but was also told his office is already pretty much cleaned out.