2017 Yankees Thread

[bpo57]

He’s back because he’s been:

-against the Arod 2nd signing.
-against the Jeter last contract
-against the CC extension
-against DLsbury signing

Was overruled on all...and proven right on all.

He’s also getting credit for all the young talent both on the roster and in the minors.

Long period of time where NYY farm system was bereft of talent during his reign. An awful lot of cash at his disposal that didn't get much of a return on investment.

Not sure he was completely right on the CC extension. He was by far their best starter down the stretch and had a very good 2H. Yanks were handcuffed on Jeter, not much they could do there. Maybe he was against some of those signings but there were plenty of other doozies that he probably owns- Youk, Kei Igawa, AJ BUrnett, Jose Contreras, Carl Pavano, to name a few.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

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[bpo57]

A lot of those salaries Cash was against...ownership pushed it. Cash was behind all the trades that stocked the farm system.

May be apples and oranges but this kind of reminds me of the Philadelphia Eagles' dynamic over the last few years. Every good or bad pick would have either Howie Roseman (GM) or Chip Kelly taking credit or passing blame for it. Hard to truthfully know who should get credit or blame for all of these moves. And I don't necessarily believe the media's take on it either.

 

[bpo57]

Yes.

His name has been thrown around for a few months whenever this subject comes up.

Guess he’s a new age analytical guy who will be basically a puppet in the dugout.

With emphasis on the word puppet.

 

[Toga]

Pretty good article.
http://nypost.com/2017/10/26/what-made-joe-girardi-a-success-cost-him-his-job/

 

[br801]

Pretty good article.
http://nypost.com/2017/10/26/what-made-joe-girardi-a-success-cost-him-his-job/

Interesting

 

[OttoinGrotto]

One thing I'll miss about Girardi - the guy could make a functional bullpen.

 

[Shawn91111]

May be apples and oranges but this kind of reminds me of the Philadelphia Eagles' dynamic over the last few years. Every good or bad pick would have either Howie Roseman (GM) or Chip Kelly taking credit or passing blame for it. Hard to truthfully know who should get credit or blame for all of these moves. And I don't necessarily believe the media's take on it either.

Cash has been pretty outspoken on the deals he was not involved with (prior to them becoming bad), and has owned up to the ones that turned out to be crap.

 

[Chip]

Cash has been pretty outspoken on the deals he was not involved with (prior to them becoming bad), and has owned up to the ones that turned out to be crap.

And no one in ownership disputes it when he’s outspoken.

They finally gave him the directive he wanted. Stay good but get younger, get cheaper, build up the farm system. I’d say he’s exceeding his boss’ expectations. And that’s who is offering up the extension.

 

[bpo57]

I wonder how much the issue of $$$ was a factor in JG's firing.

 

[dasher]

I wonder how much the issue of $$$ was a factor in JG's firing.

I bet it wasn't an issue. I think Cashman wants the team run one way, and JG wanted it run the way it was always run.

 

[Chip]

I wonder how much the issue of $$$ was a factor in JG's firing.

Does it count against the luxury tax?

 

[dasher]

Does it count against the luxury tax?

No. Not at all.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I thought Girardi's contract ran out.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[Shark58]

unless that is standard practice, why would anyone do that?

 

[OrangeXtreme]

unless that is standard practice, why would anyone do that?

Contracts don't officially expire until Nov 1.

This way the staff isn't held in limbo. It will be a few weeks until the Yanks hire a new manager.

 

[AirForceOrange]

Sheffield dominates in AFL
Yankees prospect Justus Sheffield struck out six over five scoreless innings to lead the Scottsdale Scorpions to a win in Arizona Fall League action Saturday. Fellow New York farmhand Billy McKinney led the way on offense, going 2-for-5 with four RBIs from the top spot in the lineup.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Free on The Athletic until 8 a.m. ET tomorrow.

 

[br801]

That's an excellent read.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

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[Cowtown]

I sure hope he stays.