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Bring on the Dazzler

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There. Got it out of your system?
 
It was 2010 or 2011 and we also finished the year with about thirty players not injured

Fell apart due to lack of depth

It’s weird that context matters.
 
He grinded out some 6 and 7 win seasons and is sitting at 3-6 at Colorado State now. Where's the upside in something like that?
His age? He's 62. That's pretty "up" to me. I don't know why we would want to bring in a new coach who will be 63 when he gets hired.
 
Won two of three and took Iowa to the brink

Which is funny because if you said that was HCDB, he lost all 3 but took Iowa to the brink he’d be saying we have the right coach. We have an under .500 coach now but the .500 coach isn’t good enough for us. Lol. This board is funny
 
It was poor talent situation at CSU. Full rebuild. This was a complete rebuild so the W/L at this stage is unfair. I think he is doing fine. Addazio is a better coach than Dino. The one concession I would drmand is he hire a solid passing game coordinator. His running game would be very good...but you got to throw some. A passing game is not just dump offs to TE.

We ran for how many yards on Saturday? Dino and SA are split (it looks like) 2-2 in their matchups.
 
Yeah, the “we want a guy who can run the football” is looking like a dumb take this year, should go back to the “we were supposed to play fast” takes

My honest opinion is that some people wanted to fire Dino no matter what and now that the team looks good but are losing by 3 to peer teams they are trying to throw stuff at the wall to build a new narrative “he’s a bad game manager” (because “winning with other people’s talent took a hit”)
 
Yeah, the “we want a guy who can run the football” is looking like a dumb take this year, should go back to the “we were supposed to play fast” takes

My honest opinion is that some people wanted to fire Dino no matter what and now that the team looks good but are losing by 3 to peer teams they are trying to throw stuff at the wall to build a new narrative “he’s a bad game manager” (because “winning with other people’s talent took a hit”)
Well, I mean, Dino is a bad game manager.
 
I want dino to be successful, I’m sick of starting over. Theres seems to be some light at the end of the tunnel and I think he’s learning from his mistakes. If he was more stubborn I’d take this thread more seriously but we should all be pulling for dino to put it together. But obv if it craters then it may be obvious we need more of a veteran guy to take the reins. We are right there knocking on the door, I fear injuries may tank us again tho.
 
Well, I mean, Dino is a bad game manager.
Yeah, if he solves all the other complaints, it does leave the thing that needs work. But in my world addressing the other things and closing the gap with peer teams means he’s better not worse.

The reason for firing him keeps changing - which means it’s prob more than a little disingenuous
 
Yeah, if he solves all the other complaints, it does leave the thing that needs work. But in my world addressing the other things and closing the gap with peer teams means he’s better not worse.

The reason for firing him keeps changing - which means it’s prob more than a little disingenuous

Yeah - it's not like the proverbial next guy will do all the same things well that Dino does, but then hit on the two or three 50/50 things that may go wrong.

It's easy to fire people for giggles. Can make a TV show out of it too.
 
I want dino to be successful, I’m sick of starting over. Theres seems to be some light at the end of the tunnel and I think he’s learning from his mistakes. If he was more stubborn I’d take this thread more seriously but we should all be pulling for dino to put it together. But obv if it craters then it may be obvious we need more of a veteran guy to take the reins. We are right there knocking on the door, I fear injuries may tank us again tho.
That’s where I am too. I feel like we have taken our best shot this year and with our annual injury purge coming and we still are losing these games.

Next 3 games will be a gauntlet. If we don’t win another game this year how do we reconcile this? That’s my point. Dino isn’t gonna survive a 3 win season where we didn’t beat a power 5 team.

The optimistic outlook is we out will a few teams down the stretch and finish w 5 wins. What do we do there. Is that optimistic? What does that look like?
 
Yeah, if he solves all the other complaints, it does leave the thing that needs work. But in my world addressing the other things and closing the gap with peer teams means he’s better not worse.

The reason for firing him keeps changing - which means it’s prob more than a little disingenuous

Or because he has so many reasons to be fired.

The game management is a HUGE issue. There’s no way you can look past that….

Dino lost his leash the last two seasons by not only losing but getting blown out in more than a few games.

If we were losing games that were close like this the last two years his leash is bigger. But now he has no leash so every little mistake he makes is going to be viewed far worse.

He is costing us games this year. The players are playing out of their minds and the bad coaching decisions are sinking us.

We could and should probably be 6-0 currently…instead we are 3-3 and if we get two more wins the rest of the way I would be pleasantly surprised.
 
His age? He's 62. That's pretty "up" to me. I don't know why we would want to bring in a new coach who will be 63 when he gets hired.
How old is Dino? About same age? So what's the difference. Saban is 69...who cares? Irrelevant.
 
Or because he has so many reasons to be fired.

The game management is a HUGE issue. There’s no way you can look past that….

Dino lost his leash the last two seasons by not only losing but getting blown out in more than a few games.

If we were losing games that were close like this the last two years his leash is bigger. But now he has no leash so every little mistake he makes is going to be viewed far worse.

He is costing us games this year. The players are playing out of their minds and the bad coaching decisions are sinking us.

We could and should probably be 6-0 currently…instead we are 3-3 and if we get two more wins the rest of the way I would be pleasantly surprised.
No, this is wrong. The record is 3-3. Woulda.. shoulda..coulda...losers lament. 6-0? Does not mean a thing. You are what your record says you are.
 
Yeah, if he solves all the other complaints, it does leave the thing that needs work. But in my world addressing the other things and closing the gap with peer teams means he’s better not worse.

The reason for firing him keeps changing - which means it’s prob more than a little disingenuous
The reason for firing is same everywhere in college FB...losing!! Assuming Clemson wins...17 point favorite... that leaves Dino 1-12 in his last 13 ACC games. Over past 3 years in ACC it would be combined ACC record of 3-18...winning percentage of about 17%.

What other ACC or P5 coach survives that record? The list is short.
 
The reason for firing is same everywhere in college FB...losing!! Assuming Clemson wins...17 point favorite... that leaves Dino 1-12 in his last 13 ACC games. Over past 3 years in ACC it would be combined ACC record of 3-18...winning percentage of about 17%.

What other ACC or P5 coach survives that record? The list is short.

I don't get the impression SU is weighing 2020 against him like some on the board are.
 
The reason for firing is same everywhere in college FB...losing!! Assuming Clemson wins...17 point favorite... that leaves Dino 1-12 in his last 13 ACC games. Over past 3 years in ACC it would be combined ACC record of 3-18...winning percentage of about 17%.

What other ACC or P5 coach survives that record? The list is short.
If you see 2020 as counting that’s on you.

Also, list the HC in the ACC who’ve had a 10 win season and beaten a top 2 ranked team.
 
One is our current coach.
How old is Dino? About same age? So what's the difference. Saban is 69...who cares? Irrelevant.
One is being talked about to come in and do a rebuild. Do you want a 63 year old running a rebuild.
And leave Saban out of this. We're not talking about a 63 year old Saban taking over SU.
 

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