Buffalo Bills - Draft / Free Agency

[JeremyCuse]

Soooooo glad the first I saw of this was Beane’s statement this morning that it didn’t work out and we’ve moved on.

This dude is such a clown. Only positive I take is that this means Beane isn’t messing around this offseason.

Yup, like that he was aggressive there. Brown's a hell of a talent but at his age and the baggage its really not worth it. Lets use our cap money and the draft to improve this team.

 

[Melancer46]

Beane and McD had been downplaying the importance of having a go-to WR and now their cards have been shown; they absolutely do want to bring in a #1 guy.

Does their pursuit of AB mean that they do not view guys like Metcalf as a potential #1 guy? Does it mean that they simply didn’t want to rely on hoping he’s available at #9?

Does this mean they’ll sign someone out of desperation in free agency to a contract that we ultimately end up regretting?

My personal views/hopes:

• I like DK Metcalf a lot; I have him rated around the #7 or #8 prospect in the draft. Having said that, I’m also very high on guys like Deebo Samuel and also Day 3 picks such as Stanley Morgan and Tyre Brady. I’d be fine with DK being the pick at #9, but I’d also completely understand if they go in another direction and address the WR position on Day 2 and Day 3.
• Also regarding DK Metcalf, I think Buffalo likely will need to trade up if they do want him at this point. I imagine teams will feel that’s where Buffalo turns to after missing on AB, and if that’s the case, they’ll know they need to jump in front of Buffalo to get him.
• I’m not interested in getting into a bidding war for any of these FA WRs. I’d much rather let everyone go crazy, let things settle down, and then come in at the end and scoop up a couple WRs on the cheap. Guys like Jermaine Kearse, Phillip Dorsett, JJ Nelson, ArDarius Stewart, and whichever of Randall Cobb/Cole Beasley/Jamison Crowder end up getting hung out to dry are the kinds of guys I’d be looking at if I were in Buffalo’s shoes. I’d much rather sign these guys to cheap deals than to invest $50 million in Tyrell Williams for example. If Buffalo can sign one of the "premier" options to a short-term or relatively non-guaranteed deal, that’s fine with me, but I’m not sure what the likelihood is of that.

 

[longislandcuse]

Beane and McD had been downplaying the importance of having a go-to WR and now their cards have been shown; they absolutely do want to bring in a #1 guy.

Does their pursuit of AB mean that they do not view guys like Metcalf as a potential #1 guy? Does it mean that they simply didn’t want to rely on hoping he’s available at #9?

Does this mean they’ll sign someone out of desperation in free agency to a contract that we ultimately end up regretting?

My personal views/hopes:

• I like DK Metcalf a lot; I have him rated around the #7 or #8 prospect in the draft. Having said that, I’m also very high on guys like Deebo Samuel and also Day 3 picks such as Stanley Morgan and Tyre Brady. I’d be fine with DK being the pick at #9, but I’d also completely understand if they go in another direction and address the WR position on Day 2 and Day 3.
• Also regarding DK Metcalf, I think Buffalo likely will need to trade up if they do want him at this point. I imagine teams will feel that’s where Buffalo turns to after missing on AB, and if that’s the case, they’ll know they need to jump in front of Buffalo to get him.
• I’m not interested in getting into a bidding war for any of these FA WRs. I’d much rather let everyone go crazy, let things settle down, and then come in at the end and scoop up a couple WRs on the cheap. Guys like Jermaine Kearse, Phillip Dorsett, JJ Nelson, ArDarius Stewart, and whichever of Randall Cobb/Cole Beasley/Jamison Crowder end up getting hung out to dry are the kinds of guys I’d be looking at if I were in Buffalo’s shoes. I’d much rather sign these guys to cheap deals than to invest $50 million in Tyrell Williams for example. If Buffalo can sign one of the "premier" options to a short-term or relatively non-guaranteed deal, that’s fine with me, but I’m not sure what the likelihood is of that.

DK Metcalf certainly fits the physical freak mold Beane clearly likes.

I wouldn't be opposed to taking him at 9, but am torn because the value at WR is clearly in the 2nd Round.

 

[Melancer46]

DK Metcalf certainly fits the physical freak mold Beane clearly likes.

I wouldn't be opposed to taking him at 9, but am torn because the value at WR is clearly in the 2nd Round.

It's not just Round 2 either. There's going to be good WR prospects available in every single round IMO.

Round 2 possibilities: N'Keal Harry (I think he goes late 1st though), Marquise Brown, Deebo Samuel, Parris Campbell, Kelvin Harmon, JJ Arcega-Whiteside, Hakeem Butler

Round 3: Campbell/Harmon/Arcega-Whiteside/Butler, Andy Isabella, Emanuel Hall, Miles Boykin, Riley Ridley

Round 4: Isabella/Ridley, Gary Jennings, Terry McLaurin, Stanley Morgan

Round 5+: Basically all of the Round 4 guys plus Tyre Brady, Anthony Johnson, Jazz Ferguson, Mecole Hardman, Terry Godwin, Jalen Hurd, KeeSean Johnson

 

[NateW]

I’m disappointed that the trade did not go through... but what can you do? If he doesn’t want to be here then he has the leverage.

One thing that is really starting to solidify in my mind is that Beane is a dynamo. This guy is going to take us where we want to go.

I still expect a successful offseason.

 

[NateW]

Beane and McD had been downplaying the importance of having a go-to WR and now their cards have been shown; they absolutely do want to bring in a #1 guy.

Does their pursuit of AB mean that they do not view guys like Metcalf as a potential #1 guy? Does it mean that they simply didn’t want to rely on hoping he’s available at #9?

Does this mean they’ll sign someone out of desperation in free agency to a contract that we ultimately end up regretting?

My personal views/hopes:

• I like DK Metcalf a lot; I have him rated around the #7 or #8 prospect in the draft. Having said that, I’m also very high on guys like Deebo Samuel and also Day 3 picks such as Stanley Morgan and Tyre Brady. I’d be fine with DK being the pick at #9, but I’d also completely understand if they go in another direction and address the WR position on Day 2 and Day 3.
• Also regarding DK Metcalf, I think Buffalo likely will need to trade up if they do want him at this point. I imagine teams will feel that’s where Buffalo turns to after missing on AB, and if that’s the case, they’ll know they need to jump in front of Buffalo to get him.
• I’m not interested in getting into a bidding war for any of these FA WRs. I’d much rather let everyone go crazy, let things settle down, and then come in at the end and scoop up a couple WRs on the cheap. Guys like Jermaine Kearse, Phillip Dorsett, JJ Nelson, ArDarius Stewart, and whichever of Randall Cobb/Cole Beasley/Jamison Crowder end up getting hung out to dry are the kinds of guys I’d be looking at if I were in Buffalo’s shoes. I’d much rather sign these guys to cheap deals than to invest $50 million in Tyrell Williams for example. If Buffalo can sign one of the "premier" options to a short-term or relatively non-guaranteed deal, that’s fine with me, but I’m not sure what the likelihood is of that.

The absolute last thing I want to do this offseason is overpay one of these FA receivers.

 

[Melancer46]

The absolute last thing I want to do this offseason is overpay one of these FA receivers.

I'm okay with it if it's like a 2-3 year deal or one of those deals where it's a 4 year deal but you can basically cut them after 2 years at no cost. But I'm not interested in giving a ton of guaranteed money to guys like Tyrell and Humphries.

 

[longislandcuse]

I’m disappointed that the trade did not go through... but what can you do? If he doesn’t want to be here then he has the leverage.

One thing that is really starting to solidify in my mind is that Beane is a dynamo. This guy is going to take us where we want to go.

I still expect a successful offseason.

Sounds like it would have been a 1st Round swap of picks... if true, theres not much of a market for AB and Beane probably figured, why not?

 

[JeremyCuse]

Sounds like it would have been a 1st Round swap of picks... if true, theres not much of a market for AB and Beane probably figured, why not?

Ya, I definitely would have taken that trade despite the red flags if that was it. If we had to give up the #1 pick no freeking way. Knowing how little market there is for him I wonder if this comes full circle again if Rosenhaus can talk some sense into him.

 

[Toga]

The absolute last thing I want to do this offseason is overpay one of these FA receivers.

Grab a center (Morse from KC) and maybe another FA for guard or tackle and then use 1st or 2nd pick for OL in draft for a player who can play more than one position. A TE would be nice but don't know what's available. With Foster emerging late last year I think we can get solidify WR with a quality WR using non 1st round pick.

 

[Toga]

Sounds like it would have been a 1st Round swap of picks... if true, theres not much of a market for AB and Beane probably figured, why not?

What's his salary?

 

[chugg21]

I had previously expressed on here that I had no interest in Brown because his age doesn't mesh well with what is being built but I'll admit that I was quite excited last night thinking of how the deal would have really unlocked the offseason. If it really only took a swap of #9 and 20 then I started to love the idea. 20 is a perfect spot to grab one of the O-Lineman or Iowa TEs to fill a big hole while not blowing any draft spot value. It also opened me up to loving the idea of Funchess because I imagine that he will be a target of theirs seeing as they love all things Panthers and giant WRs that don't separate. Bringing him on as the #2 with Brown I love. Bringing him in as the #1 with Foster/Zay I hate.

 

[chugg21]

What's his salary?

Believe he's got 3/38 left which is basically nothing. Tyrell Williams is 1/3 as good as Brown and about to get himself probably 4/50 with 20+ guaranteed.

 

[Melancer46]

Ya, I definitely would have taken that trade despite the red flags if that was it. If we had to give up the #1 pick no freeking way. Knowing how little market there is for him I wonder if this comes full circle again if Rosenhaus can talk some sense into him.

I can't see Beane taking AB after putting out a statement that the Bills failed and moved on. Would just be incredibly awkward.

 

[longislandcuse]

We weren’t willing to back the Brinks truck up for Brown...

Good.

What we know about Antonio Brown’s failed trade to Bills

 

[Toga]

We weren’t willing to back the Brinks truck up for Brown...

Good.

What we know about Antonio Brown’s failed trade to Bills

Who needs that?

 

[chugg21]

I'd be fine with making him the highest paid WR on a short term deal. Nowhere else to spend $80m on. Would need full buy-in though which might be the impossible part.

 

[Toga]

I'd be fine with making him the highest paid WR on a short term deal. Nowhere else to spend $80m on. Would need full buy-in though which might be the impossible part.

Can one roll over any percentage of unused cap money to the next year, or nah?

 

[JeremyCuse]

Can one roll over any percentage of unused cap money to the next year, or nah?

Yes

 

[longislandcuse]

I'd be fine with making him the highest paid WR on a short term deal. Nowhere else to spend $80m on. Would need full buy-in though which might be the impossible part.

He wants to be the highest paid WR and to have his current deal (with 3 years left) ripped up. I’m thinking he wants a 4-5 year deal at that mark.

 

[chugg21]

He wants to be the highest paid WR and to have his current deal (with 3 years left) ripped up. I’m thinking he wants a 4-5 year deal at that mark.

That's alright, no deal in the NFL is actually longer than 3 years anyway. That would essentially take up the remainder of his time as an elite WR. I'm just terrified of the alternative where we have to give a turd like Funchess $10m a year to be Benjamin 2.0 or blow a top 10 pick on a guy like Metcalf that is extremely fast in a straight line but not particularly agile for a WR and wasn't even the best WR at Ole Miss this year or any year he was there.

 

[longislandcuse]

That's alright, no deal in the NFL is actually longer than 3 years anyway. That would essentially take up the remainder of his time as an elite WR. I'm just terrified of the alternative where we have to give a turd like Funchess $10m a year to be Benjamin 2.0 or blow a top 10 pick on a guy like Metcalf that is extremely fast in a straight line but not particularly agile for a WR and wasn't even the best WR at Ole Miss this year or any year he was there.

That’s why I would try to trade back, or if we have to, take Hockenson at 9. Grab a WR in the 2nd Round. I’m not sold on Metcalf as being elite, but Hockenson could be.

 

[Toga]

That’s why I would try to trade back, or if we have to, take Hockenson at 9. Grab a WR in the 2nd Round. I’m not sold on Metcalf as being elite, but Hockenson could be.

Jesus - Iowa has 2 Top 10 picks who are TEs? That's weird. Going for a great looking TE certainly something to consider if there's a bunch of WRs you like. Or of course a hotshot OL who can play multiple positions.

 

[JeremyCuse]

That’s why I would try to trade back, or if we have to, take Hockenson at 9. Grab a WR in the 2nd Round. I’m not sold on Metcalf as being elite, but Hockenson could be.

Him or the Texas A&M TE would be great. I am real high on that kid.

 

[Toga]

After last year I swore I wouldn't get that invested in the draft this early. Damn it!