cooney needs his own thread after that

[MSOrange]

I'm with you. I support our players unilaterally, and root for them all to succeed. I've been a staunch pro-Cooney guy his entire career. But at this point, I'm just fatigued with him. I can't defend the inconsistency. He's had big games, but never seems to hit big shots--and I'm not just talking about end of the games big shots. There are so many times during the season when we'd pass the ball around and swing it to him wide open in an important situation--clank. It's gotten to the point where I don't expect him to hit shots anymore when he puts it up.

Unfortunately, he gets a lot of venom piled on his way, which is unseemly, but I get it. I honestly do.

I sadly agree with you totally. I was really on board with him for a long time. In fact, after his sophomore season, I actually lost my cool with another poster in a debate about him. I'd like to think that's one of the few times that's ever happened to me. But he just hasn't developed the consistency I expected.

 

[tbonezone]

a 26 % fg percentage in feb. (see above). 3rd in the acc in minutes played. (behind only cat barber and (g).)
furthermore of the 40 players on the 3 pt% list only 1 (pitt's sterling smith 40 % deep) shoots a lower 2 pt % and just 3 players have a lower pps. link:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...cs/player/_/id/2/stat/3-points/acc-conference

he's simply not a productive player for us given his mucho minutes. no way to spin it otherwise.

 

[Gotothehole]

a 26 % fg percentage in feb. (see above). 3rd in the acc in minutes played. (behind only cat barber and (g).)
furthermore of the 40 players on the 3 pt% list only 1 (pitt's sterling smith 40 % deep) shoots a lower 2 pt % and just 3 players have a lower pps. link:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...cs/player/_/id/2/stat/3-points/acc-conference

he's simply not a productive player for us given his mucho minutes. no way to spin it otherwise.

My point for years now

 

[sususpicious]

Without question, Cooney should be appreciated for his hard work! That being said, hard work does not make a bricklayer rich. Nor did hard work make Cooney a consistently good shooter. (And yes, the comparison between professions is intentional.)

 

[OttoinGrotto]

This has always been the case, really.

The issue, imo, no longer rests with TC. The issue is the offense he is in and the position he holds within that offense.

This is now, and has been, on JB. The fact that he said what he said at his presser just reinforces that notion.

It really is too bad TC was asked to do way too much. In a different and more evolved offense, I think he would be good.

At some point you can't blame the player anymore. I don't mean this directed at you, leftytg, I mean the generalized 'you'.

Cooney has to be at least partly responsible for what he does on the court. He's being asked to make shots. Given the number of decent looks he gets he should be capable of hitting at a higher rate than he does. It's not like everything is a double teamed fall away 25 footer.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Cooney has to be at least partly responsible for what he does on the court. He's being asked to make shots. Given the number of decent looks he gets he should be capable of hitting at a higher rate than he does. It's not like everything is a double teamed fall away 25 footer.

He's so maddening because he's consistently inconsistent on getting his feet set, squaring up, and jumping straight up. As a 5th year senior, that should be fixed by now. He had a wide open top of the key look at one point yesterday and ended up falling away backwards because of the way he jumped.

 

[Millhouse]

9-44 last 4 games, 5-30 from three

Can't believe I allowed myself hope. Can't wait for next year

 

[Millhouse]

Eyeballing here 17-65 from 3 last nine games

 

[NineOneSeven]

Was there every any doubt that Cooney would miss that last shot? Outside of last year's ND game, what's his career percentage in late game close situations? 10%?

My buddy sent me that. He has MANY more openly negative feelings about Cooney than I do.

Someone actually took time to make this video:

 

[NineOneSeven]

Most of you guys all need to go out and coach somewhere. And when you do, you'll learn a whole lot of stuff. Learn how to run a practice, and learn how to teach skills. Learn how to prepare for a game. Learn how to play when certain kids don't show up, physically or mentally. There's no magic wand. Believe it. But I can tell by a lot of the stuff posted here, most here haven't.

But if you do, many things will soon become apparent. No. 1, players don't just do what you tell them to do. Really. I mean it. Just because you're smarter/more experienced, doesn't mean that what you know transfers into their game sense just because you said so. No. 2, players don't always develop as you thought they would. Accept it. Deal with it. Make your adjustments accordingly, because if you can't, you're not really a coach. And 3, learn how deal with tight games. Do you know what you'll do when you're up 3 with 30 seconds to go, with a 60 second TO? Or worse, down 3? Regardless, you'll go with what you've got, with what got you there. With what you practiced to do. Believe it. And that's why Cooney was on the floor, and why he took that last shot.

And as for coaching, go for it. Seriously. You'll love it. Every last freaking ecstatic and heartbreaking minute of it.

How does Jimmy deal with this? Serious question, as related to Trevor throwing up bricks for a month.

 

[jdubs30]

Argh that Final Four shot...With Southerland and Fair still in the game nonetheless...

 

[NineOneSeven]

Argh that Final Four shot...With Southerland and Fair still in the game nonetheless...

That was my first time seeing the replay, maybe ever actually. Was watching the game at Chucks. By the end of the game I had consumed a solid amount of alcohol.

Tough spot for him for sure given the magnitude of the moment, but what the heck was he thinking?!

 

[heresjohnny88]

Not a huge Trevor fan by any means...certainly a frustrating career given what expectations I had for him as a shooter...but the "Cooney sucks" threads make me feel like I am Bill Murray in Groundhog's Day. We get it. He hasn't shot the ball well.

 

[realorange]

Not a huge Trevor fan by any means...certainly a frustrating career given what expectations I had for him as a shooter...but the "Cooney sucks" threads make me feel like I am Bill Murray in Groundhog's Day. We get it. He hasn't shot the ball well.

What you don't understand is some here like to dog pile even if the pile is coming out the back end.

 

[HOFCeluck]

There's no daily quota on posts, and you're not obligated to click on every thread.

I mean I give the kids a lot of benefit of the doubt but when your fifth year 2 guard puts up that "performance" in a game we REALLY needed, I can't blame anyone .

Not a huge Trevor fan by any means...certainly a frustrating career given what expectations I had for him as a shooter...but the "Cooney sucks" threads make me feel like I am Bill Murray in Groundhog's Day. We get it. He hasn't shot the ball well.

 

[br801]

There's no daily quota on posts, and you're not obligated to click on every thread.

I mean I give the kids a lot of benefit of the doubt but when your fifth year 2 guard puts up that "performance" in a game we REALLY needed, I can't blame anyone .

You points are valid, but it seems that most every thread these days, no matter the original topic, eventually (and often quickly) turns into a Cooney thread. And that's not even accounting for the many posts and threads that are certainly being deleted. Absolutely ridiculous, IMO.

 

[NineOneSeven]

You points are valid, but it seems that most every thread these days, no matter the original topic, eventually (and often quickly) turns into a Cooney thread. And that's not even accounting for the many posts and threads that are certainly being deleted. Absolutely ridiculous, IMO.

Your opinion is respected. Hopefully you respect mine.

 

[br801]

Your opinion is respected. Hopefully you respect mine.

Ditto.

 

[Alsacs]

My buddy sent me that. He has MANY more openly negative feelings about Cooney than I do.

Someone actually took time to make this video:

I am more mad at JB than I am Cooney. That video is cruel. Not blaming you at all BTW.

The fact JB hasn't recruited more guards is just bad. 3 years in a row is a joke.

 

[Deano]

How does Jimmy deal with this? Serious question, as related to Trevor throwing up bricks for a month.

According to JB, shooters keep shooting :bat:

 

[Cowtown]

How does Jimmy deal with this? Serious question, as related to Trevor throwing up bricks for a month.

I dunno, I'm as disappointed as the rest. Sometimes you just have to suck it up and sleep in the bed you made. It's like hitting a 20 foot putt, all you can really do is put yourself in position and even if you hit it right, there's no guarantee it goes. I mean, Cooney worked for 5 years to be ready to take that shot, who else was there? That said, it's probably better he missed it than Lydon or Richardson, given where they'll each be next season.

 

[NineOneSeven]

I dunno, I'm as disappointed as the rest. Sometimes you just have to suck it up and sleep in the bed you made. It's like hitting a 20 foot putt, all you can really do is put yourself in position and even if you hit it right, there's no guarantee it goes. I mean, Cooney worked for 5 years to be ready to take that shot, who else was there? That said, it's probably better he missed it than Lydon or Richardson, given where they'll each be next season.

Not talking about the last shot. In general- what adjustments has Jim made on offense with regards to our SG who plays over 35+mpg but hasn't developed offensively?

 

[Cowtown]

Not talking about the last shot. In general- what adjustments has Jim made on offense with regards to our SG who plays over 35+mpg but hasn't developed offensively?

Well, if I knew the answer to that there'd be a big long lineup outside my door with people who all wanted to talk to me. Not trying to be a wise ass either, sorry. Sometimes kids just don't develop like you hoped, and you just have to live with it, and play the hand you're dealt.

 

[NineOneSeven]

Well, if I knew the answer to that there'd be a big long lineup outside my door with people who all wanted to talk to me. Not trying to be a wise ass either, sorry. Sometimes kids just don't develop like you hoped, and you just have to live with it, and play the hand you're dealt.

Not a wise ass at all. I understand. in your original post though so you said players don't adjust like you hope sometimes, and you need to accept it and deal with it. I get it. You also said you need to make adjustments accordingly. So my question- what adjustments has Jim made in Cooney's circumstances? I don't see any.

 

[Cuseregular]

My buddy sent me that. He has MANY more openly negative feelings about Cooney than I do.

Someone actually took time to make this video:

Man oh man that's harsh...