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Development in and Around Syracuse Discussion

KellySyracuse said:
They say they want to base it on Eataly, which I may be mistaken but I thought the proposed Salt City Market was going to emulate. I like their idea though and good that someone is open on a Sunday other than Dino.

My dream is to open a cheese shop in Armory, maybe when I retire I'll be able to scale down and make that dream come true. I went to a cheese shop in Galway, Ireland that was just fabulous, giant hunks and wheels of cheese from everywhere. At the time I'd never seen anything like it and there certainly isn't anything like it around here. Shop was about the size of a small bedroom and the owner was an ornery hundred year old Irishman. It was awesome.
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Somewhat similar, I guess, but to my knowledge, the Salt City Market won't have a grocery/convenience store piece to it. Also, a number of bars/restaurants are open downtown on Sundays: Pastabilities, Hops Spot, Blue Tusk, Otro Cinco, Shaughnessy's, The Mission and I'm sure there are others.
 
KellySyracuse said:
They say they want to base it on Eataly, which I may be mistaken but I thought the proposed Salt City Market was going to emulate. I like their idea though and good that someone is open on a Sunday other than Dino.

My dream is to open a cheese shop in Armory, maybe when I retire I'll be able to scale down and make that dream come true. I went to a cheese shop in Galway, Ireland that was just fabulous, giant hunks and wheels of cheese from everywhere. At the time I'd never seen anything like it and there certainly isn't anything like it around here. Shop was about the size of a small bedroom and the owner was an ornery hundred year old Irishman. It was awesome.
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The Downtown Committee put out a brief new spot today. Thought folks here might be interested in it.

 
shandeezy7 said:
The Downtown Committee put out a brief new spot today. Thought folks here might be interested in it.

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That song is weak! I did like that they had someone shopping for what looked like CDs.
 
mostly about what to do with the BQE but some good references to the lasting effect of the Robert Moses highway system throughout NY

www.cityandstateny.com

Want to fix the traffic problem? Tear down a freeway.

New York’s highways have decimated whole cities.
www.cityandstateny.com www.cityandstateny.com

"To understand what could happen with the BQE, it’s necessary to understand what highways did to cities across the state. “Robert Moses shaped a city and its sprawling suburbs,” Robert Caro wrote in his 1974 tome “The Power Broker.” “And to an extent that would have astonished analysts of urban trends had they measured the implications of his decades of handiwork, influenced the destiny of all the cities of twentieth century America.” For upstate cities like Buffalo, Rochester and Syracuse, highways accelerated the decline of their urban cores, as middle-class, mostly white residents moved to the emerging suburbs. This sucked much of the tax base out of city governments, which then had less money to serve their remaining residents that were already suffering from the decline of the once-dominant manufacturing sector."
 
Noexcuse said:
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One of my favorite Monty Python skits. A friend and I performed this skit for a speech class when I was in high school.
At that time, you could only see Monty Python intermittently on PBS (Channel 24), so back in those days, people didn't know all these skits by heart already, and it came across as truly absurd for those who had never seen it before.
 
www.syracuse.com

Supermarket chain proposes first store in Syracuse area; can it compete with Wegmans?

Developer's proposal in Fayetteville includes 53,000-square-foot grocery store, memory care facility and smaller retail/medical building.
www.syracuse.com www.syracuse.com

I guess the property owner decided that the working with a criminal developer wasn't a good path towards getting some revenue out of this parcel.

I think this will fly for development instead of an apartment complex, but there'll be some tweaks needed. I know that the mayor is very onboard with getting that parcel re-developed.
 
Fly Rodder said:
www.syracuse.com

Supermarket chain proposes first store in Syracuse area; can it compete with Wegmans?

Developer's proposal in Fayetteville includes 53,000-square-foot grocery store, memory care facility and smaller retail/medical building.
www.syracuse.com www.syracuse.com

I guess the property owner decided that the working with a criminal developer wasn't a good path towards getting some revenue out of this parcel.

I think this will fly for development instead of an apartment complex, but there'll be some tweaks needed. I know that the mayor is very onboard with getting that parcel re-developed.
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And Hannaford's been nosing around the eastern suburbs for awhile.

This could crush Tops which, in spite of their superior bakeries, has become the red-headed stepchild of CNY supermarkets. Hannaford's better in almost every way.
 
OttoMets said:
And Hannaford's been nosing around the eastern suburbs for awhile.

This could crush Tops which, in spite of their superior bakeries, has become the red-headed stepchild of CNY supermarkets. Hannaford's better in almost every way.
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Every time I go in Tops, it's just so ... empty. There are like 12 shoppers and three cashiers.
 
OttoMets said:
And Hannaford's been nosing around the eastern suburbs for awhile.

This could crush Tops which, in spite of their superior bakeries, has become the red-headed stepchild of CNY supermarkets. Hannaford's better in almost every way.
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Would have loved for Hannaford to pick a site on 92 near Enders Rd. Price Chopper was looking there a few years ago but it never materialized. Not sure if the large population living in that area will veer off to Fayetteville when Wegmans Dewitt is about the same distance.
 
OttoMets said:
And Hannaford's been nosing around the eastern suburbs for awhile.

This could crush Tops which, in spite of their superior bakeries, has become the red-headed stepchild of CNY supermarkets. Hannaford's better in almost every way.
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Not a fan of Hannaford. Relatively expensive and fewer options than other supermarkets. I also got food poisoning from their General Tsao's chicken in March (probably my own fault for eating that stuff...)
 
Noexcuse said:
Would have loved for Hannaford to pick a site on 92 near Enders Rd. Price Chopper was looking there a few years ago but it never materialized. Not sure if the large population living in that area will veer off to Fayetteville when Wegmans Dewitt is about the same distance.
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I think there's been a little interest in that general area. Probably a little fringier than the Fayetteville site in terms of population density, that's the main difference.
 
EnviroSciGuy said:
Not a fan of Hannaford. Relatively expensive and fewer options than other supermarkets. I also got food poisoning from their General Tsao's chicken in March (probably my own fault for eating that stuff...)
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That'll sour you on the place pretty fast
 
OttoMets said:
And Hannaford's been nosing around the eastern suburbs for awhile.

This could crush Tops which, in spite of their superior bakeries, has become the red-headed stepchild of CNY supermarkets. Hannaford's better in almost every way.
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Hannaford is very good. I encountered them in Vermont years ago. It was a terrific grocery store.
 
OttoMets said:
I think there's been a little interest in that general area. Probably a little fringier than the Fayetteville site in terms of population density, that's the main difference.
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You could be right, re density, although it looks like a major development project is happening on 173 east of the high school. Plus you can draw from Caz.
 
Noexcuse said:
You could be right, re density, although it looks like a major development project is happening on 173 east of the high school. Plus you can draw from Caz.
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Yeah, on the south side of the road, it's mostly been cleared around that lovely old farmhouse. (Too bad, IMO.)
 

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