Gotothehole
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Deactivate JB key card . That’s only way this gets fixed
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Seriously, you think that was a post about bashing recruiting? Honest. I am speechless with that take.
I just find it funny how you can't handle the fact that recruiting is down and the fact that people are mad that the one guy we managed to.land. Boeheim ran out of here.
My point is pretty obvious. the board is all over the place. Our recruits suck one year and we can't live without them the next. And Kadary is not going to a lottery pick.
yeah, I can't handle that fact. this board has a lot of horrible posters. But only one can be the worst.
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You quoted my post so are you suggesting I put kids down?
I am certainly not going to defend the post to which you are responding.
But I don’t think there’s quite the tension here you are suggesting. The recruitings been bad for several years. Now the team is losing one of the few recruiting hits. If the recruiting was great that would not be that big a deal. (Jonny Flynn, paul Harris and Eric devendorf all leaving early in 2009 was fine because there was a lot of other talent there! This is not that.)
Your post is kind of silly because if we recruited better losing one player wouldn't be a big deal. The fact that there is a meltdown over what happened today should tell you something.
I am waiting to hear all of the great players that jb ran out of here. That is what you said. Now back it up
He just ran off one today and we still have 3 hours left in the day.
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It's obvious that it is a problem with the cuse program and not just a better opportunity. It's all about how things are said. There was no "thank you coaches and staff" or any thing that points to these players thinking of cuse in a positive light. Instead, we get "the dominoes have begun to fall". A statement like that is directed at a problem, not a place you are leaving for a better opportunity. Vindictive undertones, rather than excitement for the future.
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No. The head coach.
No no. You said he always does it. So start naming names. It shouldn't be that hard if he always does it.
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About a week ago I saw an article that indicated that 75 division 1 schools had 5 or more players in the transfer portal. That was before the tournament started. It's a mixture.
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Great point. I'm starting to think that national media JB = recruiting JB, local media JB = coaching JB, and student media JB = coaching a kid in the doghouse JB.
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Hmm, disagree. I think lots of people, myself included, thought it was a good foundational class. We knew Kadary was underrated and gonna be the real deal. And lots of people loved Woody and Frank’s upside.
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It sounds like Frank is following the lead of Kadary and Woody. Too bad. I know he is a young kid but it would be good for him to think for himself in this case. What an opportunity he could have at Syracuse. He doesn’t have to look much further than to Jesse to see how a guy can improve under the program. The minutes are available and right in front of him. It was always the plan for him to basically red shirt this year. I’m surprised some of his advisors haven’t said this to him. Maybe they have.
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Actually I was.
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That's certainly the glass half full way of looking at Jesse's situation. To play devil's advocate, do we really want Frank to analyze how Jesse was handled? Let's review, Jesse hears how he's not "ready" for most of the season. Then by chance, JB is forced to play him, he does pretty well. Jesse then disappears on the bench again. We don't see him until we are desperate during UNC 2 because their bigs are playing volleyball out there. Jesse gets another chance and does really well. Fast forward, he's giving us mostly solid minutes (West Virginia was a little rough) and in the last game of the season, he anchors a comeback from a 10pt deficit, only to get parked back on the bench again as he watches Houston replenish their lead. The fact he didn't start the 2nd half of that game still blows me away. Is Jesse's season supposed to inspire Frank?
I hate being so pessimistic, but I also don't find it unreasonable if Frank is seeing Jesse has in fact cemented the starting spot and the likelihood of someone coming in (i.e. Jimmy Jr) may be the favorite for back up center minutes (I circle back to the "he's not ready" treatment).
I hope Frank says screw all that and comes back to rise above the competition, but kids don't see college that way anymore and even if he does, will he get a fair shake? They want to stay for 1-2 years and get to the league. He's already spent 1 year and probably doesn't want to chance wasting a 2nd year on experiencing his own version of Jesse's season I laid out above.
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I agree that there was a lot of negativity. I think my biggest issue was that I thought we might be turning the corner. I like Kadary and Woody. I also thought Q was going to develop into a solid player. That is the frustrating thing for me. If we had Buddy and Kadary in the backcourt with our forwards and an improved Edwards I thought the team could be good next year and we could build on that. I don't understand why Joe was allowed to heat check from 32 feet and play awful on both ends and Kadary wasn't given even more minutes and named the started. I don't understand Braswell didn't play more minutes earlier or Woody get some run in streaches. I don't understand why Jesse didn't play more with Marek at the wing. It makes no sense to me and I don't blame most of these kids for leaving.
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Has it been confirmed that Frank is leaving or we just think is he gonna portal it?
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And it seems like a race lately to get to that spot.
I am not saying this has real meaning but it is interesting to me. For the hell of it, I decided to look at minutes for the last 10 games. I just selected 10 randomly.
I found Girard played an average of 24 minutes per game and Richmond 21.
For the 6 games won in that span, Joe had an avg. of 24, Kadary 19.
For the 4 games we lost in that span, Joe had an avg. of 23, Kadary 24.
So Joe played 3 more min per game in 6 games we won and Kadary played 1 more min per game in 4 games we lost during that span.
I am not drawing any conclusion based on this because there are many, many factors in play that are not shown in these stats. This is also the case for stats I have seen in Twitter. Too many factors to pick just a few stats and draw a conclusion.
I found Girard played an average of 24 minutes per game and Richmond 21.
For the 6 games won in that span, Joe had an avg. of 24, Kadary 19.
For the 4 games we lost in that span, Joe had an avg. of 23, Kadary 24.
So Joe played 3 more min per game in 6 games we won and Kadary played 1 more min per game in 4 games we lost during that span.
I am not drawing any conclusion based on this because there are many, many factors in play that are not shown in these stats. This is also the case for stats I have seen in Twitter. Too many factors to pick just a few stats and draw a conclusion.
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