Future Campus Framework Discussion

[MaxwellCuse]

I heard today that the dome renovation was dead. like completely dead. anyone know more than me?

Rumors such as these are great for recruiting. Keep em coming.

 

[orangehomer]

Rumors such as these are great for recruiting. Keep em coming.

i was hoping for someone to tell me it was wrong

 

[RMH44]

Agreed, except hidden in those costs are additional insurance, maintenance, and risk based fees, that include harnessing workers into the roof during snow storms, to clear it off. Something Sala has said to me many times is a huge issue. I think the failing of the roof in MN, sold them on not replacing the current structure. Now they could certainly cheap out and put a hard top in the most basic way on top, but given what was presented about how risky it was to be the only air supported roof left in the world, and the difficulty maintaining it, seems like a non-decision. Similar in many ways to the I-81 talk. Many options, but only a few realistic ones.

I've heard there are many variables in play including the Basketball HC transition. They are very worried about hoops attendance post JB not to mention increasing the core 20,000 FB fans that we currently have.

 

[MaxwellCuse]

I've heard there are many variables in play including the Basketball HC transition. They are very worried about hoops attendance post JB not to mention increasing the core 20,000 FB fans that we currently have.

They should be more concerned about losing the core 20,000 FB fans that we currently have. That 20,000 is aging out and/or getting digusted with 15 years out of the rankings and counting. "Crumbling" facilities don't help.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Rumors such as these are great for recruiting. Keep em coming.

You'd think some of the big honchos would immediately dispel such rumors, so the fact that we have radio silence is depressing.

 

[FrancoPizza]

They are very worried about hoops attendance post JB

They should worry about what hoops attendance will be if they don't go all in.

 

[jr4750]

They should worry about what hoops attendance will be if they don't go all in.

Yep, they better continue to invest in the program. The JB cash cow is disappearing. If they want to be cheap and lazy, then they deserve what will come. Put money into coaches and facilities and the program will be fine.

 

[SU68]

As is the case in the construction of academic buildings, I'm sure that any final plans won't be announced until there is a certain percentage amount pledged for the cost and (perhaps) the naming situation is resolved.

 

[orangetrain]

And the fundraising is nonexistent. SU is having a significant challenge raising money for the upgrades and won't be able to do anything until there are some financial pledges. For some reason SU alumni are unwilling to give back.

 

[hoopsupstate]

What fundraising? I'm a SU alum and their has been no campaign drive for the Dome.

 

[TexanMark]

What fundraising? I'm a SU alum and their has been no campaign drive for the Dome.

I think he meant they are talking to the Big Donors...folks who might drop $1M or more.

 

[orangetrain]

Correct. The large donors are the ones they need and the well runs dry after awhile. Basically they can only go to the same small group to donate so many times.

 

[UnknownOrange]

It's very interesting to me to see the difference between MBB and FB. Before I left our HUGE selling point was our new FB coach. His name, his offense, his reputation, etc - we were selling a name.

Now when JB retires you'd be selling fans the program. If they miss the tournament this year and they don't dramatically improve and send JB out on a high note - you're selling a program that won't be coming off the best seasons. Then you have a coach (that the fans love) who is completely unproven. Even if you brought in a big name, that guy has to have his record go up against JB and if that name doesn't match up - you can't sell him the same.

You know what you can sell?

A completely updated Dome.

Have to make this work. Can't stress that enough.

 

[shandeezy7]

Too bad this guy doesn't have an athletics interest for his charitable giving:

Daniel A. D'Aniello

Daniel D'Aniello

 

[jr4750]

Too bad this guy doesn't have an athletics interest for his charitable giving:

Daniel A. D'Aniello

Daniel D'Aniello

Awesome timing, just read a Forbes article about the schools that put out the most billionaires. The usual subjects are of course at the top, but also on the list are a number of state schools, as well as schools you would think Syracuse stacks up against. Didn't read closely enough to see if the list was restricted to those who became a billionaire after they graduated. Nonetheless, was curious if cuse had any to begin with. Nice to know there is one.

The 28 Schools That Mint The Most Billionaire Alumni

 

[sutomcat]

Syracuse University misses Campus Framework draft release target

 

[Bayside44]

I think he meant they are talking to the Big Donors...folks who might drop $1M or more.

More like the government, they cannot raise donor money for this thing.

 

[TexanMark]

More like the government, they cannot raise donor money for this thing.

We need cattle ranches and oil wells in CNY...sigh

Still pissed at Miner

 

[HtownOrange]

We need cattle ranches and oil wells in CNY...sigh

Still pissed at Miner

Didn't Cuomo nix gas wells? That money could have helped, assuming a few of the larger land owners would want to bestow a benefit to SU.

 

[FrancoPizza]

We need cattle ranches and oil wells in CNY...sigh

Still pissed at Miner

Maybe someone can email the county executive and ask if she has any ideas? It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they are waiting for ms minor to leave office in less than a year.

 

[CuseLegacy]

Campus Framework Update

Campus Framework Update
Monday, February 6, 2017, By News Staff
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Campus Framework
Dear Students, Faculty and Staff,

With the spring semester fully underway, we want to update the campus community on the progress of the Campus Framework planning process.

First and foremost, thank you for your participation in the more than one dozen Campus Framework forums we hosted in September, October and November. Your feedback is integral to this process and has already been used to make changes. The process of incorporating your input into the draft Campus Framework is ongoing. We’ve heard from hundreds of students, faculty, staff and community members, and appreciate the good suggestions, candor and constructive feedback.

We also want to extend our gratitude to the deans of the schools and colleges and people in the many academic and support units on campus. Throughout the fall semester, we met with these individuals to hear and gather their feedback. Specifically, this effort focused on identifying each school, college and support unit’s specific space needs and priorities. These sessions also included a discussion of how addressing those needs and priorities would support the University’s academic vision and mission. It is clear from these conversations that there is a collective commitment to ensuring the Campus Framework complements and supports the implementation of the Academic Strategic Plan.

In late January, the University announced the creation of a new Campus Facilities Advisory Board. This board, composed of students, faculty and staff, is charged with assessing all academic and non-academic investments within the Campus Framework. As co-chairs of this board, our priority will be to bring the members up to speed on all aspects of the Campus Framework before proceeding with next steps. Their input, particularly as it relates to academic facility priorities, is vital.

Envisioning and bringing to life the future of our campus is a significant undertaking—both logistically and financially. This month, Amir Rahnamay-Azar, the University’s new chief financial officer, will begin his new role at Syracuse. His review of the Campus Framework’s goals, priorities and projects is essential as we begin to define a budget and a timeline of construction.

Later this month, we, along with our colleagues in Campus Planning, Design and Construction and the members of the Campus Framework Advisory Group, will host a forum on Tuesday, Feb. 28, to share with you the information we gathered last fall and to solicit additional feedback on next steps. Specific details about the forum are forthcoming; we hope you will join us. In addition to engaging in conversation with and answering questions from participants, we will also:

• provide an overview of the physical space priorities as identified by the academic deans in the schools and colleges;
• summarize the results of the two space audits, including the accessibility audit, that were conducted in the fall;
• discuss how the Campus Framework works in tandem with the academic strategic planning process; and
• review the goals of the new Campus Facilities Advisory Board.

We continue all of this work in a deliberate, meticulous and collaborative manner. Given all this great activity and new leadership, we are taking additional time to ensure that all feedback is accurately and appropriately reflected in the next draft of the Campus Framework.

Following the forum on Feb. 28, Chancellor Kent Syverud, Provost Michele Wheatly, the Board of Trustees and the Campus Framework Advisory Group will continue to revise the draft Campus Framework. We anticipate an updated Campus Framework document will be shared with the campus community later this spring.

Your input remains critical, perhaps now more than ever, as we approach finalizing a working document that—in coordination with the University’s Academic Strategic Plan—will shape the campus environment and its physical form for decades to come. We want the Syracuse University campus and its community members to continue to thrive in a vibrant campus setting—and your continued support and feedback will help us make that possible.

As always, to learn more about the Campus Framework, please visit campusframework.syr.edu. There, you can provide your feedback and have your questions answered in real time.

Sincerely,

Michele G. Wheatly
Vice Chancellor and Provost

Pete Sala
Vice President and Chief Facilities Officer

 

[Townie72]

Didn't Cuomo nix gas wells? That money could have helped, assuming a few of the larger land owners would want to bestow a benefit to SU.

I think Texan Mark is referring to the "Well Head" tax in Texas that goes to fund Texas PUBLIC Higher Education. A certain amount go es to UT for every gallon pumped out of the Texas ground. It also goes to other schools.

NY State can't even figure out a way to get fossil fuel out of the ground let alone how to divert some of the money to an agreed-to public recipient.

Just another example of why Texas will flourish and NYS will continue downward.

 

[Orijinal]

This is so American isn't it? Everyone gets to have input and all opinions are valued equally even if most have no idea what they are talking about. Syracuse gets to put up it's plans so they can be crapped on by the general SU community (and individuals with only academic interests in mind)

Nothing but sludge to drudge through so that something less than spectacular can be built. For every head in the room, someone will have a problem with something. This stuff is so completely unnecessary and so over the top. But leave it to Syracuse U

All this is my opinion (but obviously I should be heard too!)

 

[Toga]

Campus Framework Update

Campus Framework Update
Monday, February 6, 2017, By News Staff
Share
Campus Framework
Dear Students, Faculty and Staff,

With the spring semester fully underway, we want to update the campus community on the progress of the Campus Framework planning process.

First and foremost, thank you for your participation in the more than one dozen Campus Framework forums we hosted in September, October and November. Your feedback is integral to this process and has already been used to make changes. The process of incorporating your input into the draft Campus Framework is ongoing. We’ve heard from hundreds of students, faculty, staff and community members, and appreciate the good suggestions, candor and constructive feedback.

We also want to extend our gratitude to the deans of the schools and colleges and people in the many academic and support units on campus. Throughout the fall semester, we met with these individuals to hear and gather their feedback. Specifically, this effort focused on identifying each school, college and support unit’s specific space needs and priorities. These sessions also included a discussion of how addressing those needs and priorities would support the University’s academic vision and mission. It is clear from these conversations that there is a collective commitment to ensuring the Campus Framework complements and supports the implementation of the Academic Strategic Plan.

In late January, the University announced the creation of a new Campus Facilities Advisory Board. This board, composed of students, faculty and staff, is charged with assessing all academic and non-academic investments within the Campus Framework. As co-chairs of this board, our priority will be to bring the members up to speed on all aspects of the Campus Framework before proceeding with next steps. Their input, particularly as it relates to academic facility priorities, is vital.

Envisioning and bringing to life the future of our campus is a significant undertaking—both logistically and financially. This month, Amir Rahnamay-Azar, the University’s new chief financial officer, will begin his new role at Syracuse. His review of the Campus Framework’s goals, priorities and projects is essential as we begin to define a budget and a timeline of construction.

Later this month, we, along with our colleagues in Campus Planning, Design and Construction and the members of the Campus Framework Advisory Group, will host a forum on Tuesday, Feb. 28, to share with you the information we gathered last fall and to solicit additional feedback on next steps. Specific details about the forum are forthcoming; we hope you will join us. In addition to engaging in conversation with and answering questions from participants, we will also:

• provide an overview of the physical space priorities as identified by the academic deans in the schools and colleges;
• summarize the results of the two space audits, including the accessibility audit, that were conducted in the fall;
• discuss how the Campus Framework works in tandem with the academic strategic planning process; and
• review the goals of the new Campus Facilities Advisory Board.

We continue all of this work in a deliberate, meticulous and collaborative manner. Given all this great activity and new leadership, we are taking additional time to ensure that all feedback is accurately and appropriately reflected in the next draft of the Campus Framework.

Following the forum on Feb. 28, Chancellor Kent Syverud, Provost Michele Wheatly, the Board of Trustees and the Campus Framework Advisory Group will continue to revise the draft Campus Framework. We anticipate an updated Campus Framework document will be shared with the campus community later this spring.

Your input remains critical, perhaps now more than ever, as we approach finalizing a working document that—in coordination with the University’s Academic Strategic Plan—will shape the campus environment and its physical form for decades to come. We want the Syracuse University campus and its community members to continue to thrive in a vibrant campus setting—and your continued support and feedback will help us make that possible.

As always, to learn more about the Campus Framework, please visit campusframework.syr.edu. There, you can provide your feedback and have your questions answered in real time.

Sincerely,

Michele G. Wheatly
Vice Chancellor and Provost

Pete Sala
Vice President and Chief Facilities Officer

Sigh

 

[Townie72]

This is so American isn't it? Everyone gets to have input and all opinions are valued equally even if most have no idea what they are talking about. Syracuse gets to put up it's plans so they can be crapped on by the general SU community (and individuals with only academic interests in mind)

Nothing but sludge to drudge through so that something less than spectacular can be built. For every head in the room, someone will have a problem with something. This stuff is so completely unnecessary and so over the top. But leave it to Syracuse U

All this is my opinion (but obviously I should be heard too!)

Don't despair.

This insanity happens two places; Government and Academia.

My recap of the letter:

1. We don't know what we want yet.
2. We don't know what it will cost. We got a new CFO and that's part of his job.
3. This is part of a process for the next decade.

Sounds like SU is a long, long way from actually building anything.