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If Jimmy Boeheim III is the backup C going forward

Listen, it's like those old rock n jock basketball games on MTV.

We just need to outscore opponents bc we are just plain done with defense I guess.

I'm fine with that, but let's find out where that 10 point shot is on the floor.
Loved that and their softball games. In the beginning they were awesome, softball turned into the weirdest gimmick thing ever with stuff all over the field, basketball got went too far off the rails too.
 
Loved that and their softball games. In the beginning they were awesome, softball turned into the weirdest gimmick thing ever with stuff all over the field, basketball got went too far off the rails too.
Jose Canseco one armed smashing home run. Will never forget that.
 
Jose Canseco one armed smashing home run. Will never forget that.
Dan Cortez took one out, I was amazed when a non big leaguer hit a home run. Then when I started playing softball years and years back I realized it wasn’t that crazy of a feat.
 
Coolio was the Rock N' Jock GOAT. He was in ALL of them.
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Sincere question -- we all lose it a bit as we get older. Is there a serious concern about cognitive decline at play here? I know JB is stubborn and has always said things...but some of this has me questioning things. Is it just because it's his kids and he's a dad first or is he slowing down. It happens to everyone.
In my experiences watching the people in my life age (including myself), a person's worst traits become more extreme as he/she/they gets older.
 
This is an on-going issue at SU, since at least Rak and Melo. I get that centers are tough to identify and recruit (the good ones are usually easy to spot and thus end up on teams who recruit very we$$. Those guys usually like to be involved on offense too. And then being near 7-ft tall and playing a game that involves running and jumping, just leads to injuries.

But playing Lydon and Marek out of position and now Jimmy (even briefly) is a trend.
Same at PG
 
Sincere question -- we all lose it a bit as we get older. Is there a serious concern about cognitive decline at play here? I know JB is stubborn and has always said things...but some of this has me questioning things. Is it just because it's his kids and he's a dad first or is he slowing down. It happens to everyone.
Sincere answer:
You can't defeat time. Age has many effects. It's usually pretty difficult to spot cognitive decline unless there's real 'pathology.' People develop ways to cover things up, or adapt, or make excuses, or reflect on it with humor, etc.

We can all relate to people we know, but i'll note some things that i'm experiencing now, and i'm 'only' 54. Professionally, even though i like my field, i am not nearly as engaged in it as i used to be. It used to be something i loved. Now it's a job. I used to actively participate in the industry community, i bought books, i frequented galleries/shows, bought periodicals, etc. But, now? Good lord, no. I just do the job. I'm still good at it, and i still have much more knowledge and experience than the young whippersnappers coming up, but they all have far more energy, adaptability, and passion. I'm just running out the clock, essentially, while trying to uphold my standards, but as you can guess, when you're no longer actively seeking out inspiration, the results are going to be a matter of falling back on old tricks or incidental successes because i understand what quality is.

You really can apply a lot of that to JAB. We don't have to call it being "stubborn." But, when you don't have the same zeal and commitment, you resort to what is safe and familiar.

And, then, yes, absolutely—any father would have embraced the opportunity to coach both of his sons when that scenario unfolded as it did. I can't blame him for that. It's unfortunate for our team that we don't really have a player in Jimmy's position who established himself as a clear winner of that position. Benny may have been neck-and-neck with him in the pre-season (i dunno, just remembering the reports), but he didn't do nearly enough in the early games to warrant more time than he got. And Jimmy is capable of putting up 20 points on any given night. So, at this point, what's JAB to do? In retrospect, what, hit the portal harder last spring? When he knew he had his son and a highly-touted, talented freshman coming in? Who would have been a better+realistic option?

It's hard to imagine "cognitive decline" being a reason for in-game decisions. Putting Jimmy at the 5 was just poor judgment, not impaired thinking. He relied on something similar with Marek for years, and he fell back on the same kind of strategy. It wasn't great then, either, but he trusted Jimmy over Frank, and thought the offense would balance the defense. If it had been some other person—not his son—he probably would have reacted more quickly, but he kept giving Jimmy possessions to dig out of the liability. Like a gambler who is emotionally attached to each hand. That's a problem—he's not objective. But, that's not about age. As you said, it's about being a dad, and there's no way any father can completely separate himself from that.
 
In my experiences watching the people in my life age (including myself), a person's worst traits become more extreme as he/she/they gets older.
I know we are starting to deal with that with my dad.
 
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This is an on-going issue at SU, since at least Rak and Melo. I get that centers are tough to identify and recruit (the good ones are usually easy to spot and thus end up on teams who recruit very we$$. Those guys usually like to be involved on offense too. And then being near 7-ft tall and playing a game that involves running and jumping, just leads to injuries.

But playing Lydon and Marek out of position and now Jimmy (even briefly) is a trend.
The JB of today would have played Hak at center in 2003 along with Melo, Pace/Duany, GMac and Edelin. Instead of Forth and McNeil most of the time. Though wasn’t Hak in the middle on that last possession in the title game? Back then he wanted to be bigger than the opposing team at every position (or at least a similar size). That said, JB has always said he tends to favor offense over defense. He talked about it in his book. That’s in part where the idea of putting Lydon and Marek at center originated from. He would never have done that in an earlier era because having a big man was so crucial to both ends of the court back then. But the game has changed. I also think this is where psychology comes into play. As you get older, you tend to fall back on old habits and what worked in the past or what worked most recently. So he’s going with the insanity of Jimmy at center because it worked with Lydon and Marek and he thinks it gives the offense a boost to have 5 offensive threats on the floor. But we all know it gives the team a huge disadvantage in rim protection, rebounding and interior scoring. Not to mention potentially stunting some of Frank’s development. I’m hoping Frank continues to make strides in practice and Jesse stops fouling out, so this foolish experiment with Jimmy in the middle goes away.
 
I think Frank has been fine in his limited backup role but he’s an average rebounder and doesn’t blocks shots. He’s mostly just long and mobile.

That being said, Jimmy at the middle of the zone is a disaster. I feel like JB is trying to prove that it worked (lol) with Dole and that his son can do it too.
 

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