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Only 1 guy can truly turn this around

I appreciate what Doug Marrone did, believe me. But I think a lot of people are distorting history. I remember these forums during the rough years under Marrone - of which there were two (and some change). Before the offense came alive in 2012, people were frustrated as hell, questioning his coaching, questioning his hires (especially Hackett), etc. He went to two bowl games in four years, and the other two years were losing seasons.

And before anyone says it - yes, obviously he inherited a horrendous situation. That's why I said I appreciate the fact he got us competitive again. But he certainly wasn't what I'd call a genius coach and savior.
 
jekelish said:
I appreciate what Doug Marrone did, believe me. But I think a lot of people are distorting history. I remember these forums during the rough years under Marrone - of which there were two (and some change). Before the offense came alive in 2012, people were frustrated as hell, questioning his coaching, questioning his hires (especially Hackett), etc. He went to two bowl games in four years, and the other two years were losing seasons.

And before anyone says it - yes, obviously he inherited a horrendous situation. That's why I said I appreciate the fact he got us competitive again. But he certainly wasn't what I'd call a genius coach and savior.
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Even halfway through 2012 - after the loss to Rutgers - many on here wanted him out. Memories are very flawed.
 
dollarbill44 said:
Even halfway through 2012 - after the loss to Rutgers - many on here wanted him out. Memories are very flawed.
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It's like thinking back on an ex girlfriend a few years down the road. "Sure, she was crazy and set my curtains on fire that one time, but the make up sex was great the next week...maybe I should give her a call."
 
jekelish said:
It's like thinking back on an ex girlfriend a few years down the road. "Sure, she was crazy and set my curtains on fire that one time, but the make up s e x was great the next week...maybe I should give her a call."
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HA! So true.
 
jekelish said:
It's like thinking back on an ex girlfriend a few years down the road. "Sure, she was crazy and set my curtains on fire that one time, but the make up s e x was great the next week...maybe I should give her a call."
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That's the Doug Marrone version of the song "she's kinda hot though".
 
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I thought for sure it was going to be this guy

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GoSU96 said:
Much different situations. This program is in an much, much, much better state than it was in 2008. He did a lot more then "just make this program competitive".
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Like?
 
GoSU96 said:
Much different situations. This program is in an much, much, much better state than it was in 2008.

He did a lot more then "just make this program competitive".
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I couldn't agree more. He took a team with marginal talent and got them back to bowl games. He took a lightly recruited 2 star qb and made him an NFL draft pick. This without an Ensley or a remodeled locker room. I really like shafer, I want him to keep his job. But a coach like marrone, who btw did a pretty decent job in buffalo, is an outstanding top tier coach IMO that would take this talent and win these nail biting games that were finding a way to lose
 
Marrone's drive by tenure was marked by improvement, but his conference record sucked. He was a .500 coach in the BE. How about we give Shafer his fourth year before we make comparisons?
 
Crusty said:
Marrone's drive by tenure was marked by improvement, but his conference record sucked. He was a .500 coach in the BE. How about we give Shafer his fourth year before we make comparisons?
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Well if we pencil in the BC game this year he'd have to go 10-0 in conference next year to reach a sucky .500 after four years.

That really would be a miracle.
 
People are also forgetting he couldn't recruit nor liked it. He isn't a college coach. Did a nice job here but his in ability to not recruit out is in the situation we are now with our freshman out playing most of the upper class man. Shafer is a college coach. He gets the players to buy into his vision and is a far superior recruiter. Also people are forgetting dougs in game coaching wasn't all that great either. Lastly that guy built the bridge then burned it down on the way out. Not only did he burn it out but he pissed all over the smoldering pile of debris. No and hell no to Marrone! And yes I'm bitter and fully support our coach
 
GoSU96 said:
Well if we pencil in the BC game this year he'd have to go 10-0 in conference next year to reach a sucky .500 after four years.

That really would be a miracle.
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Can you honestly say marrone brought in enough talent. If he was here we still take a step back and I honestly think the future wouldn't be as bright. This staff is targeting players That are difference makers. There's isn't one guy right now that is standing out from marrones recruits. You can say whatever you want about different schemes but the bottom line is if they are better they would be playing and they aren't.
 
Cusefan78 said:
Can you honestly say marrone brought in enough talent. If he was here we still take a step back and I honestly think the future wouldn't be as bright. This staff is targeting players That are difference makers. There's isn't one guy right now that is standing out from marrones recruits. You can say whatever you want about different schemes but the bottom line is if they are better they would be playing and they aren't.
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To be fair to Marrone, it's been 3 years since he's been here. There aren't many of his guys left on the team. Then also add to the fact that Marrone hasn't been coaching those kids for the past 3 years. So it's hard to blame him since he barely coached the.m. But that is his fault since he bolted for the NFL. Can't blame him. He probably never thought he'd be an NFL head coach.
 
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