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Washington State 65; Illinois 56; Missouri 44; Syracuse 18; James Madison 11; Duke 9; Pittsburgh 7; Louisiana 5; Louisville 2; Vanderbilt 1; Sam Houston 1; LSU 1; Colorado State 1;

 

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Missouri 56, Memphis 38, Kansas St. 36, Syracuse 21, Louisville 15, Pittsburgh 6, LSU 6, Louisiana-Lafayette 5, Vanderbilt 4, Colorado St. 2, Duke 2, James Madison 2, Georgia Tech 1.

 

[blust2i3d4]

Hate to see UNLV is in and we are out.

 

[upperdeck]

shows how much early in buys you.

You take Mizzu, with who they have beat, and they have been in all yr

But if you start them at 60 they never get in.

Flip it and start SU at 10.

they win a couple so 8-10 by week3. Blow up vs Stan and fall to like 16

Beat HC then go on the road and beat ranked UNLV and then road NC st so around 12-13

lose to pitt who is undefeated and probably fall to like 18-19

Beat VT then lose to BC and go to like 23..

We beat Cal/Uconn and are back to 17-18

Miami win or lose we probably never fall out.

 

[upperdeck]

Now take Ala and start them at 60
3-0 beat GA and they probably get in at about 18-20
lose to Vandy and fall out beat USC and back in about 23-24
lose to Tenn and fall out

beat Mizz 23-37 then beat LSU and probably back in around 15th at 8-2

 

[OttoinGrotto]

shows how much early in buys you.

You take Mizzu, with who they have beat, and they have been in all yr

But if you start them at 60 they never get in.

Flip it and start SU at 10.

they win a couple so 8-10 by week3. Blow up vs Stan and fall to like 16

Beat HC then go on the road and beat ranked UNLV and then road NC st so around 12-13

lose to pitt who is undefeated and probably fall to like 18-19

Beat VT then lose to BC and go to like 23..

We beat Cal/Uconn and are back to 17-18

Miami win or lose we probably never fall out.

Ok, so this is why, in that other thread, I was talking about how they should rank within cohorts.

Take the undefeated teams and rank those first. They get the top spots. Then take the 1 loss teams and rank them. They automatically fall behind the unbeatens. Then the 2 loss teams and rank them. Until you get to 25.

It would remove the preseason perception bias. You week 2 Top 25 is all undefeated teams. This ranking prioritizes game results over subjective perceptions of "how good" teams are relative to each other.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Current Sagarin. Our best OOC is #50. Our SOS thus far is 57th, so it has been rising. That said, we only play one team in the current Top 30 and only two in the Top 40. Half of our schedule is between 43rd and 71st, a very strong middle. The bottom is not bad either with only one team outside 105th.

We are now 9th in the ACC, so right in the middle. Getting top half is definitely possible. Getting ahead of the Top FCS seems would require us to win out, and even that might not be enough. Being 5th in the ACC (25% teams above and 75% below) seems out of reach. Getting 2nd in the Northeast would likely require winning out. We need to get #1 in NY State, that could be tight. A convincing W vs UConn and a close loss to Miami could get us Top 50.


1. Bama new #1 overall, highest SEC
2. Texas #2 overall, 2nd SEC
3. Ohio State highest B18
6. Notre Dame highest non B18/SEC
7. Oregon highest undefeated, 2nd highest B18
8. Penn State highest Northeastern
10. Miami highest ACC, 2nd highest non B18/SEC, best on our schedule
12. Indiana 2nd highest undefeated
13. Colorado highest B12
14. Clemson 2nd ACC
16. SMU 3rd ACC
17. Iowa State highest B12
20. Tulane highest G5, highest AAC
23. Boise State 2nd highest G5, highest MWC
29. Louisville 4th ACC
34. VA Tech 5th ACC, 2nd best on our schedule
40. South Dakota State highest FCS
41. North Dakota State 2nd FCS
43. Pitt 6th ACC, 2nd Northeast
45. GA Tech 7th ACC
49. West Virgina
50. UNLV 2nd MWC, best OOC we play
53. Cal 8th ACC
54. Cuse 9th ACC, best in NY State
55. UNC 10th ACC
56. Army 2nd ACC, 2nd NY State
57. Rutgers
60. Duke 11th ACC
67. BC 12th ACC, 2nd worst Northeastern P4
69. UVA 13th ACC
71. NC State 14th ACC, 2nd worst FBS we play
73. Maryland worst Northeastern P4
75. Marshall
77. Navy
81. FSU 15th ACC
86. Wake 2nd worst ACC
89. Ohio
97. UConn 2nd worst FBS we play
104. Stanford worst P4/FBS we play, worst ACC, 2nd worst P4
116. Purdue worst P4
131. Buffalo worst in NY State
132. Delaware
152. Temple 2nd worst Northeast
180. Holy Cross worst on our schedule
181. UMass worst Northeast
187. Kennesaw State 2nd worst FBS
218. Kent State worst FBS
262. Northwestern State 2nd worst team
263. Stetson worst team

 

[swish7]

So close. Hope we end the season in the top 20. 2-1 over the next 3 could do it.

 

[orangenauburn]

How wasn't Louisville punished more for their loss?

Them at 29th seems high

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Surprised that we got so many votes. I was thinking if we look good vs UConn and soem teams lost we could get into the 25-30 range in the polls. We are already there.

 

[orangenauburn]

Surprised that we got so many votes. I was thinking if we look good vs UConn and soem teams lost we could get into the 25-30 range in the polls. We are already there.

Every time we get to this spot we fall on our face

I'd like to get over the hump against UConn and get ranked in Frans first year

 

[wooddoc]

Every time we get to this spot we fall on our face

I'd like to get over the hump against UConn and get ranked in Frans first year

I'd like to see it, too, but I think it's gonna take more than UConn. Speculate on Miami? No way, but damn... I like Fran - a lot.

 

[Orangello]

Do not crap the bed against the Pooches. Please God. Win and go into Miami with a punchers chance.

 

[Cuse181]

Hate to see UNLV is in and we are out.

We are their worst loss

 

[Cuse181]

Now take Ala and start them at 60
3-0 beat GA and they probably get in at about 18-20
lose to Vandy and fall out beat USC and back in about 23-24
lose to Tenn and fall out

beat Mizz 23-37 then beat LSU and probably back in around 15th at 8-2

I think you are severely undervaluing a win over Georgia…

 

[blust2i3d4]

Do not crap the bed against the Pooches. Please God. Win and go into Miami with a punchers chance.

UConn had three losses. Two are within one position loss against Duke and Wake Forest. They could be easily 9-1 now. We need to be careful and don't think this is an easy win.

 

[orangenauburn]

UConn had three losses. Two are within one position loss against Duke and Wake Forest. They could be easily 9-1 now. We need to be careful and don't think this is an easy win.

They also have one score wins over Rice, Georgia State, and UAB

 

[Dinkyspond]

They also have one score wins over Rice, Georgia State, and UAB

Mora is a very good coach. UConn will be ready. They will be hungry to knock off a P4 team and a northern rival from the Big East days. Fran will have us ready also, I am confident. A tremendous amount at stake for us.

 

[Eric15]

Current Sagarin. Our best OOC is #50. Our SOS thus far is 57th, so it has been rising. That said, we only play one team in the current Top 30 and only two in the Top 40. Half of our schedule is between 43rd and 71st, a very strong middle. The bottom is not bad either with only one team outside 105th.

We are now 9th in the ACC, so right in the middle. Getting top half is definitely possible. Getting ahead of the Top FCS seems would require us to win out, and even that might not be enough. Being 5th in the ACC (25% teams above and 75% below) seems out of reach. Getting 2nd in the Northeast would likely require winning out. We need to get #1 in NY State, that could be tight. A convincing W vs UConn and a close loss to Miami could get us Top 50.


1. Bama new #1 overall, highest SEC
2. Texas #2 overall, 2nd SEC
3. Ohio State highest B18
6. Notre Dame highest non B18/SEC
7. Oregon highest undefeated, 2nd highest B18
8. Penn State highest Northeastern
10. Miami highest ACC, 2nd highest non B18/SEC, best on our schedule
12. Indiana 2nd highest undefeated
13. Colorado highest B12
14. Clemson 2nd ACC
16. SMU 3rd ACC
17. Iowa State highest B12
20. Tulane highest G5, highest AAC
23. Boise State 2nd highest G5, highest MWC
29. Louisville 4th ACC
34. VA Tech 5th ACC, 2nd best on our schedule
40. South Dakota State highest FCS
41. North Dakota State 2nd FCS
43. Pitt 6th ACC, 2nd Northeast
45. GA Tech 7th ACC
49. West Virgina
50. UNLV 2nd MWC, best OOC we play
53. Cal 8th ACC
54. Cuse 9th ACC, best in NY State
55. UNC 10th ACC
56. Army 2nd ACC, 2nd NY State
57. Rutgers
60. Duke 11th ACC
67. BC 12th ACC, 2nd worst Northeastern P4
69. UVA 13th ACC
71. NC State 14th ACC, 2nd worst FBS we play
73. Maryland worst Northeastern P4
75. Marshall
77. Navy
81. FSU 15th ACC
86. Wake 2nd worst ACC
89. Ohio
97. UConn 2nd worst FBS we play
104. Stanford worst P4/FBS we play, worst ACC, 2nd worst P4
116. Purdue worst P4
131. Buffalo worst in NY State
132. Delaware
152. Temple 2nd worst Northeast
180. Holy Cross worst on our schedule
181. UMass worst Northeast
187. Kennesaw State 2nd worst FBS
218. Kent State worst FBS
262. Northwestern State 2nd worst team
263. Stetson worst team

How long did this post take you?

 

[HRE Otto IV]

They also have one score wins over Rice, Georgia State, and UAB

Don’t forget Temple cam down to the last play too

 

[721Comstock]

They also have one score wins over Rice, Georgia State, and UAB

And Rice is TURRIBLE.

Went the Army v Rice game at Michie.
Army pretty much had their way with Rice, who pretty much have ONE really good, do it all player on O.

UConn struggling to beat them, means that UConn is pretty meh.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

And Rice is TURRIBLE.

Went the Army v Rice game at Michie.
Army pretty much had their way with Rice, who pretty much have ONE really good, do it all player on O.

UConn struggling to beat them, means that UConn is pretty meh.

Really Duke and Buffalo were their two best games. And they trailed by 17 in the first half vs Duke.

 

[ottodaorange]

And Rice is TURRIBLE.

Went the Army v Rice game at Michie.
Army pretty much had their way with Rice, who pretty much have ONE really good, do it all player on O.

UConn struggling to beat them, means that UConn is pretty meh.

Always liked Ann Rice, especially the vampire series.

 

[NKR1978]

Assuming we beat UConn I think we'll be ranked because the networks will like a top 25 matchup.

 

[Cusefan69]

Every time we get to this spot we fall on our face

I'd like to get over the hump against UConn and get ranked in Frans first year

Agreed. I think we would need a win though like 38 to 14/45 to 17 to make a jump into the polls.