Future Campus Framework Discussion

[Cheriehoop]

This is a horrendous idea for Syracuse and I hope it isn’t the plan. Older retirees will not want to pay NY taxes to spend winters in the snow capital of the country.

Not quite right at all. Now if this is planned to be very expensive 4 bedroom places no way it will go over. Otherwise it very well may do well - close to doctors, hospitals, entertainment, sports venues etc.

“For Onondaga County, the population of older adults increased 29% in the last decade, according to the report. That translates to an increase of over 19,000 people to over 85,000 people total. Older adults now account for 18% of Onondaga County's total population, up from 14% in 2011.Feb 14, 2023””

 

[NJneer12]

I'm probably retiring near Syracuse. I was a Skytop Freshman so maybe my life can come full circle...

 

[bnoro]

This is a horrendous idea for Syracuse and I hope it isn’t the plan. Older retirees will not want to pay NY taxes to spend winters in the snow capital of the country.

People of all ages need housing

 

[NJCuse97]

Not quite right at all. Now if this is planned to be very expensive 4 bedroom places no way it will go over. Otherwise it very well may do well - close to doctors, hospitals, entertainment, sports venues etc.

“For Onondaga County, the population of older adults increased 29% in the last decade, according to the report. That translates to an increase of over 19,000 people to over 85,000 people total. Older adults now account for 18% of Onondaga County's total population, up from 14% in 2011.Feb 14, 2023””

The model I was reacting to is that of Duke and Texas A&M (the examples provided) where the housing is aimed at high roller alumni. I don’t deny there is a need for general affordable housing as well as that for retirement aged people, but that is not what I understand was being proposed. If this seeming donation (hard to make a profit on low income) somehow gets parlayed into a med school for SU, then OK.

 

[NJCuse97]

People of all ages need housing

See immediately preceding post. My comment was in response to the potential of a retirement community for well-to-do SU alumni to reconnect with their alma mater.

 

[bnoro]

See immediately preceding post. My comment was in response to the potential of a retirement community for well-to-do SU alumni to reconnect with their alma mater.

I think the retirement community would sell itself regardless of if those people are SU Alumni. But it's just another selling point to prospective alumni too.

Not everyone wants to go live in the south.

 

[upperdeck]

Is it better to live in florida and 4 months of the year you stay inside for heat and 3 months of the year you dodge hurricanes. or live in NY where 4 months we have snow that you can actually enjoy

 

[cliftonparksufan]

I think the retirement community would sell itself regardless of if those people are SU Alumni. But it's just another selling point to prospective alumni too.

Not everyone wants to go live in the south.

Yup. Many people want to be near family and friends. The weather is secondary to them. Give people lifestyle options like good food nearby, good healthcare, workout facilities, pickleball, golf simulators, and people will flock there. Especially if it's a short distance to the Dome. Many seniors are extremely active with disposable income, especially if they have to take mandatory distributions.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

Is it better to live in florida and 4 months of the year you stay inside for heat and 3 months of the year you dodge hurricanes. or live in NY where 4 months we have snow that you can actually enjoy

The winter is much more enjoyable if the basketball team is doing well.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Is it better to live in florida and 4 months of the year you stay inside for heat and 3 months of the year you dodge hurricanes. or live in NY where 4 months we have snow that you can actually enjoy

How many septegenarians ski?

 

[721Comstock]

Yup. Many people want to be near family and friends. The weather is secondary to them. Give people lifestyle options like good food nearby, good healthcare, workout facilities, pickleball, golf simulators, and people will flock there. Especially if it's a short distance to the Dome. Many seniors are extremely active with disposable income, especially if they have to take mandatory distributions.

Re: pickleball -

 

[cliftonparksufan]

Re: pickleball -

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What does that chart show? I am color blind.

 

[OrangeinBoston]

How many septegenarians ski?

My wife and I, and our good friends ski. Florida sucks.

 

[oldpinepoint]

My wife and I, and our good friends ski. Florida sucks.

My man! Florida is flat and nice to visit for a week. Give me fresh powder any day

 

[orangefog]

My man! Florida is flat and nice to visit for a week. Give me fresh powder any day

No state has more fresh powder than Florida.

 

[oldpinepoint]

No state has more fresh powder than Florida.

Nose candy for everyone!

 

[NJCuse97]

I think the retirement community would sell itself regardless of if those people are SU Alumni. But it's just another selling point to prospective alumni too.

Not everyone wants to go live in the south.

Count me amongst those! That said, if I want to retire in the snow, taxes are much less in NH or VT and there’s as much or more to do. I’d personally rather go to the Adirondacks, but again, what’s to be gained by SU even if you could convince me I want to retire to South Campus?

 

[NJCuse97]

Is it better to live in florida and 4 months of the year you stay inside for heat and 3 months of the year you dodge hurricanes. or live in NY where 4 months we have snow that you can actually enjoy

I get your point and I’m not really fighting the idea of retiring in a colder climate. Florida has no draw for me, and I was surprised when my folks became snowbirds. There’s something about wanting warmth and less hassle driving your spouse to the doctor. I saw snow in Syracuse October to May one year while attending SU. That’s 6-7 months.

 

[OburgOrange]

Is it better to live in florida and 4 months of the year you stay inside for heat and 3 months of the year you dodge hurricanes. or live in NY where 4 months we have snow that you can actually enjoy

SC population is exploding with what RE agents call “halfbacks”. Retirees who are tired of the heat, humidity, hurricanes and insurance issues in Florida. Jasper county is one of the fastest growing counties in the US

 

[richmondcuse03]

SC population is exploding with what RE agents call “halfbacks”. Retirees who are tired of the heat, humidity, hurricanes and insurance issues in Florida. Jasper county is one of the fastest growing counties in the US

Housing/insurance market is a mess in Florida.

 

[orange79]

Housing/insurance market is a mess in Florida.

Insurance market is stabilizing.

Housing market is still fraught with overbuilding.

 

[FrancoPizza]

SC population is exploding with what RE agents call “halfbacks”. Retirees who are tired of the heat, humidity, hurricanes and insurance issues in Florida. Jasper county is one of the fastest growing counties in the US

Is SC really that much cooler? I mean cmon.

 

[FrancoPizza]

There’s something about wanting warmth and less hassle driving your spouse to the doctor.

I think it's a universal thing that as you get older your bodies don't retain or generate heat very well, loss of muscle mass and all that. It's a much more significant issue with women for that reason. They're always complaining about the A/C being on even when they're younger.

 

[sutomcat]

Count me amongst those! That said, if I want to retire in the snow, taxes are much less in NH or VT and there’s as much or more to do. I’d personally rather go to the Adirondacks, but again, what’s to be gained by SU even if you could convince me I want to retire to South Campus?

In theory these people wouid mostly be sports fans who would have easy access to attend SU sports events.

If SU were to lease the land to developers, who would then build the housing, community center, shopping district, etc, SU would get a lot of income with no risk or investment required. And would still own the land later if it was eventually needed for other purposes.

 

[TexanMark]

Count me amongst those! That said, if I want to retire in the snow, taxes are much less in NH or VT and there’s as much or more to do. I’d personally rather go to the Adirondacks, but again, what’s to be gained by SU even if you could convince me I want to retire to South Campus?

Are taxes cheaper in Vermont?