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Class of 2017 PG Howard Washington (NY) Decommitted from Butler

Discussion in 'Basketball Recruiting Forum' started by AWMKY, Sep 29, 2013.

  1. jdubs30

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    Frank Howard Washington
     
  2. jordville

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    Washington and Brissett...
     
  3. iommi

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    Kid is always piling up the rebounds. That speaks to effort.
     
  4. Trueblue25

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    Why the deuce haven't we offered him? Is there some great grad transfer I'm not getting the message about? F his ratings and what not, look at his offers. Multiple great talent evaluating coaches have offered him. Get him over here and lets develop him into a 4 year contributor. You know, those building block guys that allow your program to survive after continuous years of 1 and dones.
     
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    I agree with just about everything you said above. But let's trust the coaching staff here--they must have something cooking that we aren't fully aware of, or that we aren't privy to.

    Ayala just visited last weekend. Maybe something is percolating there. Or maybe they project Duarte as a point. :noidea:

    I would offer him, and wouldn't feel bad if we do despite the ratings. Because I think he could be precisely what you suggest--a four year guy who might develop into a starter, and backcourt depth even if he doesn't.
     
  6. iommi

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    Yeah, I don't get it. Our other offers are to a guy who might not even be in this class and a talented kid who is a bit of a mystery after coming off an injury.

    Washington wants to be Orange. We need guys like that.
     
  7. Toga

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    Maybe we are putting our all our eggs in some other basket. :noidea:
     
  8. RF2044

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    And for the record, I felt the same way about that SF from Brewster who ended up at Georgia Tech. Missed opportunity there.
     
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  9. Trueblue25

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    I agree.

    It's getting so damn frustrating though. These be trying times.
     
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    You know,I lose track. How many schollys are available for next year and after. Can't remember when all this crap is done.
     
  12. cliftonparksufan

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    The pinned link at the top of the page breaks it down by class. If everyone comes back, we had eight accounted for.
    Lydon
    Battle
    Chukwu
    Howard
    Moyer
    Thompson
    Brisset
    Sidibe

    According to this article we still are losing two for next season, and one for the season afterwards, so we still have three available. 13-2-8=3.
    NCAA allows Syracuse basketball to count 3 scholarships this year toward penalty
     
  13. Trueblue25

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    "NCAA allows" ...gah, bite me.
     
  14. Dcuse

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    Thank you sir.
     
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    NCAA allows Syracuse basketball to count 3 scholarships this year towards penalty
    NCAA allows scumbag Paterno to get all his wins back and doesn't shut down that program
    NCAA allows Baylor to still have an athletic department
    NCAA allows Kentucky and North Carolina to keep playing basketball

    Hey, seems great to me.
     
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    Yeah, and of those tentatively on the roster for next season, three could very well not be for various reasons (in order of likeliness of leaving: Lydon, Howard, and Chukwu). So SU has 3-6 spots to fill still. It's not dark yet, but it's getting there. And getting fifth years and some decent freshman is OK, but look how relying on them this season has played out with regards to the defense. IMO, it'd be easier to deal with roster turnover if the defense wasn't so time-consuming to get used to playing.
     
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    I think you make an excellent point. And, not just for this year or next. I think the early departures and all of the transfers resulting from the sanctions have put the roster in a state of turmoil over the past 5 years. Had the coaches been able to keep the guys who left (too?) early and not been hamstrung by the roster restrictions, the defense, and hence the team's overall performance, would have been markedly better.
     
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    Why would Chukwu be leaving the program? Is it possible that he won't recover or is it something else? There was the Baylor big man, Isaiah Austin I think, who played with a detached retina.
     
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    Austin was blind in one eye--it wasn't just a detached retina.

    I don't think that he was suggesting that Chukwu WOULD leave, just that it could happen if he doesn't recover from his medical problem from earlier this year.
     
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  20. Col. Bleep

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    Absolutely.
    That should count for A LOT with a talented player.
     
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