Worst call ever

[upperdeck]

Nobody saying anything about the failure of refs to call a pass inference call on Pats with about 7 minutes to go and led Seattle to punt and allowed Pats their winning drive. The announcers were stunned that the refs didnt call tripping on the Pats defender who reached with his hand and tripped the receiver who fell to the ground as the ball then whistled by. I thought at the time that the play would result in a last minute go ahead TD for the Pats. It did but left 202 on the clock for seattle. And the rest is history.i,

blame the rule. incidental contact is not a penalty.. you see guys fall and wr fall over them an no call. Ne guy falls and at least at speed it looks like he is flopping all over.. in slow mo it looks like he reached out.

 

[upperdeck]

Maybe I'm just stupid, but came someone tell me what Pete Carroll is saying here? He is using 2-3 negatives in one brief statement.

The exact question: Did offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell call a run, only to have Carroll switch that call to a passing play?

"There was not a thought about running it, and then I changed the play," Carroll said, via ESPN.com. "That did not happen."

if seattle had not wasted the previous time out they probably run 3 three times.. passing allowed them to almost run the clock out run again if needed and call a to and run the last play of the game.. its not the pass its the location of the play, but since it was the only INT on that type of play all year why would they expect it to be a INT..

 

[shandeezy7]

if seattle had not wasted the previous time out they probably run 3 three times.. passing allowed them to almost run the clock out run again if needed and call a to and run the last play of the game.. its not the pass its the location of the play, but since it was the only INT on that type of play all year why would they expect it to be a INT..

Well, technically it was the only interception on a pass from the goal line, not necessarily on that type of play. I'd love to know how many other times teams tried to throw a quick inside slant from the one. There just really isn't any room for it, with LB's/Corners/Safeties all jammed up on the LOS.

 

[OrangePA]

Apparently it was Belicheck who made the wrong call.

He should have called time out.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-of-the-super-bowl-and-it-wasnt-pete-carroll/

 

[upperdeck]

if Belicheck calls his time outs then Seattle has more time to waste and probably runs he ball all 3 times and probably scores, NE has no time outs but needs a FG to tie.

and the stats are great but again they dont take into effect the time and the players on the field.. he just threw random stats at the scenario and came up with a wash.

 

[kirbivore]

i long thought pete carroll was an idiot. then he won a super bowl so you have to rethink it a little. but now i really think he's an idiot. who talks about wasting plays?

you could've had time to run 3 times if you need had they gotten the play in earlier in the drive

The first wasted timeout was P&D-esque. It was following the first play after the 2 minute warning, which was an incomplete pass. Inexuseable they had to burn a timeout there

 

[OrangePA]

if Belicheck calls his time outs then Seattle has more time to waste and probably runs he ball all 3 times and probably scores, NE has no time outs but needs a FG to tie.

and the stats are great but again they dont take into effect the time and the players on the field.. he just threw random stats at the scenario and came up with a wash.

Just reporting the 538 Analysis.

But I think NE gets the ball back with much more time than you presume.

 

[Chip]

if Belicheck calls his time outs then Seattle has more time to waste and probably runs he ball all 3 times and probably scores, NE has no time outs but needs a FG to tie. and the stats are great but again they dont take into effect the time and the players on the field.. he just threw random stats at the scenario and came up with a wash.

Yeah. Tom Brady with one minute left and no timeouts. Zero chance of a FG.

Belichick will probably send his first ever Christmas card next year, and I know who it's going to.

 

[OrangePA]

The first wasted timeout was P&D-esque. It was following the first play after the 2 minute warning, which was an incomplete pass. Inexuseable they had to burn a timeout there

Oh, I thought the first time out was Andy Reidesque.

Come to think of it, the TO was Pete Carrollesque.

Oh, well, I guess a lot of teams have to use TOs when they would prefer not to.

 

[Tobias Funke]

Apparently it was Belicheck who made the wrong call.

He should have called time out.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-of-the-super-bowl-and-it-wasnt-pete-carroll/

From Belicheck


“We put our goal-line defense in probably around the same time they were sending in their multiple receiver group, and that's kind of what we wanted to be in there, to make sure they didn't run the ball in,” Belichick said.

“I'd like to think had they tried to run the ball against our goal-line defense, with three receivers on the field -- we couldn't ask for any more than that in terms of trying to stop the running game. We saw that matchup and we certainly gave some consideration to taking a timeout there and leaving some time on the clock. I don’t know if that would have been a bad thing to do. It might have been a good thing to do.

“But it just seemed like in the flow of the game that we were OK with where we were.”

Thought this was an interesting view. Looks like both coaches went with feel rather than data. You could argue both sides were wrong, but one had to be right, right?